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Bill: Induction of an Indentity Card
Details
Submitted by[?]: Königs Reichspartei
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2808
Description[?]:
| This legislation will police and support the well-being of society if all citizens are issued with identity cards by tackling many issues including: - Illegal Immigration - Tax Evasion - Illegal underage activities - Probation control - Security measures (military facilities, airports, schools...) The legislation will also Deter crime significantly and simplify all identification because your card will include drivers license, age (pensioner, adult, child...), membership of unions etc. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government-issued identity card policy.
Old value:: Citizens are not issued with identity cards.
Current: All citizens are issued with identity cards but are not required to carry them.
Proposed: All citizens are issued with identity cards and are required to carry them at all times.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 04:03:06, August 24, 2009 CET | From |  Liberaldemokratische Allianz | To | Debating the Induction of an Indentity Card |
| Message | None of those issues would be addressed by an mandatory identity card. |
| Date | 04:13:59, August 24, 2009 CET | From | Königs Reichspartei | To | Debating the Induction of an Indentity Card |
| Message | First of all, the legislation doesn't refer to a mandatory identity card. Secondly I will gladly prove to you ALL the issues are addressed: Illegal Immigration: Proof of one's immigration status Tax Evasion: Proof of your tax entitlements, thus cheating the system is a lot harder Illegal underage activities: Although they are not entitled to carry them, if a relevant authority has reason to believe a young person is doing something illegal due to his/her age and isn't carrying the card, then the authority can arrest them and investigate them further. Probation Control: My apologies, I meant Prohibition. Security Measures: More effective and efficient way to maintain security. |
| Date | 04:22:37, August 24, 2009 CET | From | Nationale Demokratische Union | To | Debating the Induction of an Indentity Card |
| Message | We agree with the CLA. A simple card will not fix nor improve any of these problems that much. Illegal Immigration: If the card is not mandatory, then how do you even easily prove one's immigrant status. An officer cannot force a person to go home and get the card. Tax Evasion: National ID cards don't show tax information, these cards aren't almanacs on everyone's issues. Illegal Underage Activities: In general, you don't really need a card to be able to tell if someone is underage. Drivers licenses are used for this issue. Prohibition Control: I surely hope this "Prohibition Control" isn't a reference to future proposals to illegalize alcohol. It doesn't work, and history has proven that. If this is just a reference to alcohol regulations, this is another issue cared for by drivers licenses. Security Measures: This goes back to the illegal immigration. The card is not mandatory, so there isn't that much to increasing security. And regardless of whether its mandatory or not, a simple card is not going to increase national security. In conclusion, we oppose this bill. |
| Date | 05:24:05, August 24, 2009 CET | From | Königs Reichspartei | To | Debating the Induction of an Indentity Card |
| Message | An officer can arrest and find information on the suspect, and if there's none then its more than likely he/she is an illegal immigrant They don't show tax information as such but they do show your income and that is dependent on tax. The Identity Card would replace the Driver's license Prohibition in this context means children in restricted places after hour. If you don't have your card with you, you would find it hard to function in society since it incorporates all of your details. |
| Date | 19:40:39, August 24, 2009 CET | From | Konstitutionelle Monarchie Partei | To | Debating the Induction of an Indentity Card |
| Message | I'd like to see identity card participation be left to the choice of the citizens however some parties here even think letting the whole program be voluntary is a bad idea. |
| Date | 11:08:18, August 25, 2009 CET | From | Königs Reichspartei | To | Debating the Induction of an Indentity Card |
| Message | Keeping that in mind, I am going to change the proposal. |
| Date | 11:16:29, August 25, 2009 CET | From | Königs Reichspartei | To | Debating the Induction of an Indentity Card |
| Message | Which title (Justice, Military... etc) does identity card come under? |
| Date | 12:41:18, August 25, 2009 CET | From | Königs Reichspartei | To | Debating the Induction of an Indentity Card |
| Message | Found and sorted =D |
| Date | 11:05:45, August 26, 2009 CET | From | Kaiserlich Partei | To | Debating the Induction of an Indentity Card |
| Message | Konigs, you have also failed to mention the benefits this would have in regards to eliminating bureaucracy in government |
| Date | 04:30:26, August 27, 2009 CET | From | Liberaldemokratische Allianz | To | Debating the Induction of an Indentity Card |
| Message | The CLA is opposed to a voluntary ID card program because such a move will more likely than not be used as a stepping stone to establishing a mandatory regime as proposed here. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 133 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 592 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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