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Bill: Incarceration Education Proposal
Details
Submitted by[?]: Autoritäre Reich Allianz
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2808
Description[?]:
| Why is this even an issue. Re-education and rehabilitation of criminals is a gigantic step towards improving prison levels, as it impacts repeat offenders. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Education in prisons.
Old value:: Prisoners are not given any form of education.
Current: An education plan for prisoners is provided to improve rehabilitation.
Proposed: An education plan for prisoners is provided to improve rehabilitation.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 10:53:52, August 26, 2009 CET | From | Königs Reichspartei | To | Debating the Incarceration Education Proposal |
| Message | As the proposed legislation stands I can't agree to it. Particular criminals such as paedaphiles and murdurers should NOT be given education benifits |
| Date | 11:10:53, August 26, 2009 CET | From | Kaiserlich Partei | To | Debating the Incarceration Education Proposal |
| Message | I fail to see the desired effect of this proposal... Please clarify the following things: 1. What is education? -is it life skills or mathematics? 2. Who would qualify? -all prisoners or just low-security prisoners? Furthermore, if a person will not be removed from the correctional facility, why is it the state's responsibility to ensure the person remains mentally active. I believe the onus should be on the prisoner. |
| Date | 11:11:03, August 26, 2009 CET | From | Kaiserlich Partei | To | Debating the Incarceration Education Proposal |
| Message | I fail to see the desired effect of this proposal... Please clarify the following things: 1. What is education? -is it life skills or mathematics? 2. Who would qualify? -all prisoners or just low-security prisoners? Furthermore, if a person will not be removed from the correctional facility, why is it the state's responsibility to ensure the person remains mentally active. I believe the onus should be on the prisoner. |
| Date | 12:07:33, August 26, 2009 CET | From | Autoritäre Reich Allianz | To | Debating the Incarceration Education Proposal |
| Message | 1. Education; the life-skills necessary to integrate back into society, and the work skills to re-enter the workforce. 2. All prisoners could potentially qualify. The idea of an education system to rehabilitate is to stop people like paedophiles and murderers from repeating their offences when they are released. KP- How can it be the prisoners responsibility to ensure they remain mentally active, when their is no way for them to do this while they are incarcerated? KR- You wish to leave paedophiles and murderers brewing in prisons, given nothing to do but absolve into fantasies? Thoughts like this are the reason why they are likely to re-offend, they know no better. Give them something to learn, homework even, and keep their mind's occupied. Considering the amount of budget entering Education, some should be allocated to the prison system. |
| Date | 12:16:52, August 26, 2009 CET | From | Königs Reichspartei | To | Debating the Incarceration Education Proposal |
| Message | Any psychologist will tell you ARA that murderer's and paedophiles' criminal behaviour is embedded in their mind-set, thus it is impossible to change so they may as well rot in prison where they belong |
| Date | 12:37:11, August 26, 2009 CET | From | Autoritäre Reich Allianz | To | Debating the Incarceration Education Proposal |
| Message | I have not yet found 'any psychologist' to tell me this. Obviously you are misinformed, as physcologist's don't study these, it is in fact psychiatrist's. People can change, and if a murderer is going to be in the prison system for 10-20 years, they will need to be re-educated to adjust to society, as it is bound to change in that time period. Besides, murderer's are not a factor in this argument, due to this countries support of the death penalty for capital crimes. |
| Date | 15:52:49, August 26, 2009 CET | From | Kaiserlich Partei | To | Debating the Incarceration Education Proposal |
| Message | I must admit that although we as a society have a tendency to assist in the rehabilitation process, there are frankly some members of the community that "fail to be rehabilitated". |
| Date | 16:12:28, August 26, 2009 CET | From | Königs Reichspartei | To | Debating the Incarceration Education Proposal |
| Message | A psychologist puts the theories of psychiatrists into practice, therefore my argument isn't flawed. Manslaughter charges should also be considered. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 212 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 513 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: "OOC", "IC" and "IG" are commonly-used acronyms in Particracy. "OOC" refers to comments, discussions and actions which are out-of-character, meaning they are done player-to-player rather than party-to-party. "IC" refers to in-character interactions (ie. party-to-party). Similarly, "IG" means in-game, although this term may also simply refer to what happens in the actual game interface, as opposed to on the forum or elsewhere. "RP" just means "role-play". |
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