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Bill: Welfare Reform Act of 2130
Details
Submitted by[?]: Islamic Nationalist Front
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2131
Description[?]:
| A BILL to prohibit direct cash payments to individuals. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Guarantee of minimum income.
Old value:: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a reasonable, though not high, standard of living by the government.
Current: There shall be no direct cash payments to individuals to guarantee a minimum income.
Proposed: There shall be no direct cash payments to individuals to guarantee a minimum income.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:03:32, October 25, 2005 CET | From |  Jakanian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Welfare Reform Act of 2130 |
| Message | YES |
| Date | 16:49:33, October 25, 2005 CET | From | Ogden Sinclair Party | To | Debating the Welfare Reform Act of 2130 |
| Message | OSP believes mankind must recieve a living wage anything else is economic enslavement |
| Date | 22:08:42, October 25, 2005 CET | From |  Islamic Nationalist Front | To | Debating the Welfare Reform Act of 2130 |
| Message | The CoS would like to point out that this legislation does not deal with a minimum or living wage, but simply government handouts to the lazy and the incompetent. |
| Date | 22:11:13, October 25, 2005 CET | From | Ogden Sinclair Party | To | Debating the Welfare Reform Act of 2130 |
| Message | Why does it say it deals with minimum wage in the heading then? Also from reading, there is no mention of those who wont work |
| Date | 22:56:06, October 25, 2005 CET | From | Jakanian Liberal Socialists | To | Debating the Welfare Reform Act of 2130 |
| Message | (This one is fairy confusing, but it does apply to unemployment benefit, hence the bit "All adults not supported by another person...". The phrase "minimum income" here refers to the unemployment benefit, in the sense that people will receive a minimum ammount of money from the government when unemployed, rather than being left with none) The JLSP, perhaps predictably, opposes this bill. If not only because unemployment is not always soley through choice, and the government can not abandon such people, or leave them at the mercy of unethical employment practises just to survive. |
| Date | 01:01:11, October 26, 2005 CET | From | Ogden Sinclair Party | To | Debating the Welfare Reform Act of 2130 |
| Message | The OSP believes that "laziness" and "incompetence" are usually used as insults towards the working class from ignorant members of the middle classes. People when provided with the necessities of life (not just food, water) become motivated and worthwhile human beings, this is what we should strive for, nobody is owed an income but we owe it to our society not to let unemployed and disabled people slip through the cracks. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 116 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 118 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 16 |
| Random fact: Culturally Open nations can adopt advisory/non-enforceable Nation Descriptions. See http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6242 |
| Random quote: "How we can possibly be giving £1bn a month, when we're in this sort of debt, to Bongo Bongo Land is completely beyond me." - Godfrey Bloom |