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Bill: Child Benefit Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Liberal Democratic Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2822
Description[?]:
| I think Rutania should have consistency on such an inportant benefit. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding child benefit.
Old value:: Child benefit policies are left to local governments.
Current: The state guarantees child benefit to families classified as low-income or poor.
Proposed: The state guarantees child benefit to families classified as low-income or poor.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:47:31, September 22, 2009 CET | From | Rutanian Heritage Party | To | Debating the Child Benefit Act |
| Message | The arguments for 'consistency' are used time and time again to justify centralization and uniformity, but why does consistency between regions matter at all? Why is it a problem if one local government decides, on behalf of the communities it represents, that child benefits should not be provided, when another decides it should? The answer is quite simple - the LDP cannot bare to imagine that there are states in which the people and governments don't share their concerns for total wealth-redistribution and welfare-statism. The LDP cannot stand to allow even one state to stray from this socialist orthodoxy, and demands that each be forced into conformity with an iron fist if they have fallen out of step. This continual aim by the LDP towards the usurpation of local government authority and autonomy is completely and utterly unjustifiable. |
| Date | 03:37:37, September 22, 2009 CET | From | Liberal Democratic Party | To | Debating the Child Benefit Act |
| Message | The Liberal Democratic Party only support larger government if they have some reason to believe that it will lead to material improvement in people's lives. We think the eradication of child poverty, amongst other vital things, should be guaranteed across Rutania. The current policy fails in that respect. Steve Anderson Candidate for Health and Social Services Liberal Democratic Party |
| Date | 12:48:56, September 22, 2009 CET | From | United Democrats | To | Debating the Child Benefit Act |
| Message | The NDPR strongly believe in helping low income families and as such congratulate the LDP on this bill. We support it. |
| Date | 22:10:26, September 22, 2009 CET | From | Rutanian Restoration Party | To | Debating the Child Benefit Act |
| Message | The OP are opposed to centralization, as we are in most cases, and we will continue to be consistent on this issue. We cannot support. If a large enough bloc of voters wanting this legislation exists in one of the commonwealths then we would fully expect it to pass. Our aim should not be material gain. This is the wrong approach. Rather, the aim of Rutanian society, and government, should be the personal betterment of oneself. Give the people their freedoms, give them an equal footing, an equal opportunity--a better education--then we will see material gain as a result. |
| Date | 01:44:43, September 23, 2009 CET | From | Liberal Democratic Party | To | Debating the Child Benefit Act |
| Message | What happens to the families with low incomes or living in poverty in the regional areas of Rutania where the majority of voters have decided they do not want this legislation? Is that giving them an equal footing....an equal opportunity? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 106 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 169 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 30 |
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