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Bill: Ban Minimum Wage Laws

Details

Submitted by[?]: Free Market Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: October 2131

Description[?]:

We need to ban Minimum Wage Laws, they
1.) produce higher unemplyoment for low skilled workers rather then providing them a good living standard.
2.) make it harder for the youth to even enter the workforce
3.) are useless anyways if set to low.

There is also quite an error in the system. Minimum Wage, though considerably lower, is also granted by the general income which is payed to every citizen of the country and is also enacted.

Therefore i suggest to ban minimum wage laws or to considerably lower the monetary level to lower the unemployment even more and to solve the double legislation.

Whats your opinion on the topic?

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date19:03:54, October 25, 2005 CET
FromLibertarian party of Darnussia
ToDebating the Ban Minimum Wage Laws
Message:| now it's getting crazy... see... we should ban him...
And the government can try to make the youth join the workforce, and also please explain how it makes it harder for the youth to join? (the minimum-wages) It'll be just as hard... Same for the elderly...
It is useless when set too low! BRILLIANT! why not abolish it then! DUUUUUUUUH! :|
And we have social security... And lowering minimum-wage wouldn't make much more employment... would just give more profit!
And when you have a job you wont get social security... so people in social security might be better off... therefore high unemployment!
Also this will lower consumption power of the workforce which could make our economy collapse.
(there are actual proposals about this so you can ban minimum-wage)

Date19:05:59, October 25, 2005 CET
FromLibertarian party of Darnussia
ToDebating the Ban Minimum Wage Laws
Messagehere it is:

The nation's policy on minimum wage regulation.

There shall be a minimum wage at a level considered a "living wage," well above the poverty line for a full time worker.

Alternatives:
o There is no provision for a minimum wage.
o There shall be a minimum wage at a level that a single full time worker on it can adequately subsist.
o There shall be a minimum wage at a level that a full time worker on it can support a family of four without falling under the poverty line.

So argument 3 is worthless looking at this bill.
(its in the economics section of the proposals)

Date19:46:47, October 25, 2005 CET
FromSocial Democratic Party of Darnussia
ToDebating the Ban Minimum Wage Laws
MessageAbolishing the minimum wage law would result in people earning as little as possible, and living well below the poverty line, besides which your arguements have been debunked by the introduction of the minimum wage in Britain and it not having any negitive effects on Business or the ecomony.


I just wonder how much of your thinking is flawed?

Date23:07:49, October 25, 2005 CET
FromFree Market Party
ToDebating the Ban Minimum Wage Laws
MessageAs far as i know, only the government made a considerable net plus in employment lately in britain. There are some signs of minimum wage laws not working. And maybe theyre just right with their proposal of "minimum wage" as the actual market price?

Our current standing on minimum wage laws is "paying consiberle higher then living standard" or something like that, which is likely to produce at least some unemployment. The fact is: The total money spend on labour in an economy should be the same with minimum wage laws or without. Without there is the possibilty that some may earn less but more people are employed. So whats fair? Some people living at the expense of others because they came first in their job? I guess not...

Date00:20:27, October 26, 2005 CET
FromFree Market Party
ToDebating the Ban Minimum Wage Laws
MessageOk i am going to just propose a small change in the minimum wage laws. Step by Step politics :)

Date00:21:06, October 26, 2005 CET
FromFree Market Party
ToDebating the Ban Minimum Wage Laws
Messageawww, how is that working, damn ;) i destroyed my proposal!

Date00:32:22, October 26, 2005 CET
FromLibertarian party of Darnussia
ToDebating the Ban Minimum Wage Laws
Messageuhm... a proposal would be nice too...

Date00:39:43, October 26, 2005 CET
FromFree Market Party
ToDebating the Ban Minimum Wage Laws
Messagehow can i do that? i am zeh noob ;)

Date00:50:24, October 26, 2005 CET
FromSocial Democratic Party
ToDebating the Ban Minimum Wage Laws
MessageGag, no.

Unless we have an issue where our jobs are exported to third-world countries that lack minimum-wage laws and we're in the critical stages of an economic implosion, we'll keep minimum wage.

Date15:11:10, October 26, 2005 CET
FromLibertarian party of Darnussia
ToDebating the Ban Minimum Wage Laws
Messagesomewhere when you propose a bill (not jet send to vote) there is something with: add proposal.
If you click there, and then look under the economic sections or you press ctrl-f

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
 

Total Seats: 0

no
        

Total Seats: 182

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


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