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Bill: Religious Advertising Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: United Democrats
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2836
Description[?]:
| We must stem the flow of religious cults. We cannot allow any form of religion to advertise itself. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards evangelism and religious advertising.
Old value:: Religions are permitted to freely promote and advertise themselves.
Current: Religions are permitted to freely promote and advertise themselves.
Proposed: Religions are not permitted to promote themselves or advertise in any manner whatsoever.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Current: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Proposed: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:51:24, October 20, 2009 CET | From | People's Party of Rutania | To | Debating the Religious Advertising Act |
| Message | As Rutania is a rather secular nation we feel that we may be able to support this bill, however we think Article 1 may be a bit too extreme. Would the DPR consider allowing evangelism? We would fully support this bill in that event. |
| Date | 22:16:18, October 20, 2009 CET | From | United Democrats | To | Debating the Religious Advertising Act |
| Message | Evangelism is still religious, we don't believe religions should be able to advertise lies. |
| Date | 22:22:19, October 20, 2009 CET | From | People's Party of Rutania | To | Debating the Religious Advertising Act |
| Message | The PPR will think about this issue. |
| Date | 22:40:24, October 20, 2009 CET | From | United Democrats | To | Debating the Religious Advertising Act |
| Message | We did not mean to put this to vote so quickly, we apologise for this. |
| Date | 23:44:02, October 20, 2009 CET | From | Rutanian Heritage Party | To | Debating the Religious Advertising Act |
| Message | We fully reject this legislation and both of its articles. |
| Date | 01:23:22, October 21, 2009 CET | From | Liberal Democratic Party | To | Debating the Religious Advertising Act |
| Message | We would support Article 2 but believe Article 1 to infringe on free-speech. |
| Date | 02:13:53, October 21, 2009 CET | From | People's Party of Rutania | To | Debating the Religious Advertising Act |
| Message | Hence why we called for evangelism to be allowed, would the LDP accept this proposal then? |
| Date | 02:19:32, October 21, 2009 CET | From | United Democrats | To | Debating the Religious Advertising Act |
| Message | Regarding Article 1: Surely religion should be a conscious choice with no commercial influence? Religion should not recruit through advertising, any religion that does this is a failing religion only trying to compete with the mainstream religions. You either believe or you don't believe, advertising is simply unethical when coupled with religion. Do we want our ministers and priests be turn into some sort of marketing gurus trying to find quicker and snappier catchphrases to entice the young and ill-informed into their religion? The DPR also feel that religious advertising brings a sense of realness to the things that they preach, these things are not true and never have been. Let's keep religion out of the living rooms of the people that don't believe and don't want to be preached to shall we. |
| Date | 03:18:08, October 21, 2009 CET | From | Liberal Democratic Party | To | Debating the Religious Advertising Act |
| Message | Why are you specifically asking for evangelism to be allowed? I'm not sure what the concern is with religions advertising. I remain open-mided on this article though. I'd like to know why the honourable senator believes religion coupled with advertising is "unethical". And I should imagine religions the world over would embrace ministers who could entice the young into their faith. I believe we should trust the people to make up their own minds on these matters. |
| Date | 03:24:07, October 21, 2009 CET | From | United Democrats | To | Debating the Religious Advertising Act |
| Message | How can people be "enticed" and still make up their own minds? Entice: provoke someone to do something through (often false or exaggerated) promises or persuasion. This sums up my argument fully. |
| Date | 03:33:31, October 21, 2009 CET | From | Liberal Democratic Party | To | Debating the Religious Advertising Act |
| Message | Your definition came from a thesauras which was connecting the word 'entice' with other words. The definition is: to attract or draw towards oneself by exciting hope or desire; tempt; allure. The word entice has no negative connotations. If that sums up your argument fully, then there is not enough in your argument to encourage us to change our position. |
| Date | 03:58:07, October 21, 2009 CET | From | United Democrats | To | Debating the Religious Advertising Act |
| Message | I think you forgot the last bit of that definition, allow me to help. Entice: to attract or draw towards oneself by exciting hope or desire; tempt; allure; as, the bait enticed the fish. The bait enticed the fish. Does this sound good to you? |
| Date | 21:47:09, October 21, 2009 CET | From | Liberal Democratic Party | To | Debating the Religious Advertising Act |
| Message | Ha ha that was an example of when the word can be used. You could also say "the bait attracted the fish". Would you have the same negative connotations for the word "attracted"? Again, poetic license..... |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 90 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 215 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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