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Bill: Survival at Minimum Wage
Details
Submitted by[?]: Rationalist Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2133
Description[?]:
| Very few people working for minimum wage will work full time hours, thus, under current legislation, they would eventually fall into poverty and die (as they would not be making a subsitence wage). In order to prevent this, we would support a slight increase in the minimum wage |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on minimum wage regulation.
Old value:: There shall be a minimum wage at a level that a single full time worker on it can adequately subsist.
Current: There shall be a minimum wage at a level considered a "living wage," well above the poverty line for a full time worker.
Proposed: There shall be a minimum wage at a level that a full time worker on it can support a family of four without falling under the poverty line.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:16:48, October 27, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Party of Telamon | To | Debating the Survival at Minimum Wage |
| Message | No. They can't support a family of four...then don't have a family of four. |
| Date | 21:00:57, October 27, 2005 CET | From | Rationalist Party | To | Debating the Survival at Minimum Wage |
| Message | They can't support themselves currently, I don't especially like this, but I don't want people dying while they attempt to get the skills they need for a better job |
| Date | 22:39:53, October 27, 2005 CET | From |  Federation Under Crazy Killers -- United | To | Debating the Survival at Minimum Wage |
| Message | Then they need to work full time hours. |
| Date | 10:17:20, October 28, 2005 CET | From | Telemon Lutheran Party | To | Debating the Survival at Minimum Wage |
| Message | "Then they need to work full time hours." Well what if they cant?? |
| Date | 19:29:47, October 28, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Party of Telamon | To | Debating the Survival at Minimum Wage |
| Message | Then it means, that our government is providing enough jobs, which means something may be wrong with the economy, which means. Aside from the fact giving away more money would make it worse, the person can go on welfare, and will stay, so long as the person actively pursues a job in his skill list. |
| Date | 20:32:07, October 28, 2005 CET | From | Federation Under Crazy Killers -- United | To | Debating the Survival at Minimum Wage |
| Message | Why cant they? |
| Date | 21:07:50, October 28, 2005 CET | From | Rationalist Party | To | Debating the Survival at Minimum Wage |
| Message | Currently it is better to be on welfare than to have a less than full time minimum wage job... how's that good for the economy? |
| Date | 13:23:06, October 29, 2005 CET | From | United Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Survival at Minimum Wage |
| Message | It isn't better currently to be on welfare benefits than to have a minimum wage job as the benefit system is geared to ensuring that people find a job. I fyou read it you will remember that they are paid a basic income but that this does not exceed 6 months. Therefore it would seem to me to be better to have that job!! |
| Date | 19:03:32, October 29, 2005 CET | From | Federation Under Crazy Killers -- United | To | Debating the Survival at Minimum Wage |
| Message | How about, no welfare? |
| Date | 19:03:59, October 29, 2005 CET | From | Federation Under Crazy Killers -- United | To | Debating the Survival at Minimum Wage |
| Message | oh and welfare and unemployment are different. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 117 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 114 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 24 |
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