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Bill: Ratification of the International Convention on Prisoner Rehabilitation
Details
Submitted by[?]: Luthori Green Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes for the ratification of a treaty. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2132
Description[?]:
| This bill asks for the ratification of the International Convention on Prisoner Rehabilitation. If this treaty is ratified, it becomes binding and will define national law. |
Proposals
Article 1
Ratify the International Convention on Prisoner Rehabilitation.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:00:53, October 28, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Ratification of the International Convention on Prisoner Rehabilitation |
| Message | Education is okay, but paying villians? |
| Date | 16:12:19, October 28, 2005 CET | From | Redneck Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the International Convention on Prisoner Rehabilitation |
| Message | Criminals are human svcam, a blot on our country. Pay them for commiting theirs crimes? The lot of you are insane. |
| Date | 16:27:31, October 28, 2005 CET | From | United Conservative Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the International Convention on Prisoner Rehabilitation |
| Message | Quite right Redneck - this lot are stark bonkers. We're being run by the insane asylum now. Prisoners have the right to be rehabilitated using hard labour, long sentences, and capital punishment. That'll fix 'em. |
| Date | 16:38:11, October 28, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the International Convention on Prisoner Rehabilitation |
| Message | DUP: We pay politicians. RnP: Svcam, do you mean scum? We are not paying them for their crimes, we are paying them a small wage (less than non-convicts) for any labour they do in prison. In order to make them productive functioning members of society, we have to teach them how to hold a steady job with a regular wage/salary, so that they don't fall back into crime. UCP: Now you know how we felt when you were in power. Hard labour, long sentences and capital punishment will not rehabilitate convicts, it will just drive them further away from society, and make it easier for them to justify their crimes, both past and future. Being away from friends, family and loved ones, as well as being removed from the outside world is punishment and thus justice, anything else is just vengeance and revenge. Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth. |
| Date | 17:36:51, October 28, 2005 CET | From | Redneck Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the International Convention on Prisoner Rehabilitation |
| Message | Yeah, I always seem to have an error or to in my statements. However, we pay to feed, house and clothe them. To suggest we do that then pay them is insane. Any money their labor produces should go directly to the state to pay for them. No law abiding citizen gets a free ride in life, and neither should this scum. Anyone who supports this should resign from the offices they hold. They do the citizens a huge disservice. |
| Date | 18:33:30, October 28, 2005 CET | From | Seosavists Republican party | To | Debating the Ratification of the International Convention on Prisoner Rehabilitation |
| Message | We pay them so they have money so in the case of people stealing because they can't afford things they want and need they won't steal again, the other ones who are well off probably won't bother working for such a small wage. |
| Date | 19:32:41, October 28, 2005 CET | From | Redneck Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the International Convention on Prisoner Rehabilitation |
| Message | Why should we even allow them "things" to "afford" in prison? It's not a vacation for them. It's a punishment. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 385 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 265 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 100 |
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