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Bill: Thalasocracy Bill II

Details

Submitted by[?]: First Marine Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: April 2855

Description[?]:

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Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date21:05:43, November 26, 2009 CET
From First Marine Party
ToDebating the Thalasocracy Bill II
MessageGays are just as strong as other men. As long as its not women, our millitary is fine. Also, if people own guns, there will far fewer deaths because everyone is protected and if a country invades, we will have an incredible group of militia.

Date21:47:34, November 26, 2009 CET
From Liberal Democratic Party
ToDebating the Thalasocracy Bill II
MessageWe completely agree with Article 1. We cannot agree to article 2 or 3 though. The idea that if you give everyone guns there will be fewer deaths is completely flawed. Evidence clearly shows nations that have legal ownership of guns have significantly higher gun deaths (and murders generally) than those that prohibit guns. We should strive towards a completely gun free society.

Date00:00:32, November 27, 2009 CET
From People's Party of Rutania
ToDebating the Thalasocracy Bill II
MessageThe PPR are confused by the title of this bill. Do the FMP seem naval supremacy as the first step to political power?
However, the PPR echo the sentiments of the LDP. We cannot support Article 2 and will never support Article 3.

Date19:45:32, November 27, 2009 CET
From Rutanian Restoration Party
ToDebating the Thalasocracy Bill II
MessageWe would actually fully support this bill.

Date20:15:23, November 27, 2009 CET
From United Democrats
ToDebating the Thalasocracy Bill II
MessageWe reject all areas of this bill. Including the title.

Date22:48:11, November 27, 2009 CET
From First Marine Party
ToDebating the Thalasocracy Bill II
MessageYes, we do believe strongly in Naval Supremacy, and although that does not directly relate to this bill, it is our parties postion. Now, we believe very strongly in the right to bear arms, although we can remove that from this bill. However, the other two we cannot remove. We call our bills thalasocracy bills cuz we need to rule the seas through military might, tons of trade, and minimal border control. With that said, we despise forien nations and use trade and our might to destroy the unpure races of the world.

Date22:58:25, November 27, 2009 CET
From First Marine Party
ToDebating the Thalasocracy Bill II
Messagewe would like to point out that a locally funded police force was the idea of the people (check out the Rutanian newspaper from april)

Date23:57:54, November 27, 2009 CET
From Rutanian Heritage Party
ToDebating the Thalasocracy Bill II
MessageThe RHP fervently oppose Article 1. Open homosexuality in the military will cause a distraction and disrupt cohesion; in an organization which is vital for the defence of Rutania, and in which unity and comradery are paramount, this presents an obvious problem.
Furthermore, Article 1 is rooted in the dubious assumption that homosexuality is a perfectly acceptable and normal lifestyle choice, and that homosexuals should therefore be made equal to others. The RHP does not accept this assumption, nor anything that stems from it. Homosexuality is not only a physically degenerative practice, and one that has been considered immoral in our civilization for the greater part of its history, but it directly violates the most basic biological law that governs man-kind - that is, the survival of the species through procreation between members of the opposite sex. Why, then, should the federal government go to such great lengths to position homosexuals as equal, and to manufacture an artificial society in which their equality is imposed and enforced against prevailing attitudes, values and morality? Why should homosexuals be allowed to join the military when open pedophiles, incestuous people, or those who openly practice any other subversive, unnatural, and strange sexual behaviour would not? Modern society's favouritism of homosexuals is entirely arbitrary.

With regard to Article 2, we would certainly support this initiative if it were proposed in a seperate piece of legislation.

Date06:10:21, November 28, 2009 CET
From First Marine Party
ToDebating the Thalasocracy Bill II
MessageWe too dislike homosexuals but, they do a fine job pitting bullets in people. We do not exactly support them, but we support the military!!!!!

Date06:35:51, November 28, 2009 CET
From Liberal Democratic Party
ToDebating the Thalasocracy Bill II
MessageWe would like to publically say we abhorre the RHP's disgusting comments regarding homosexuals. Connecting them with pedophilia and incest is outrageous. The RHP talk of civilisation not only shows their complete ignorance about history but also their complete backwards nature. If anything is unnatural, Sir, it is you.

Date13:59:16, December 01, 2009 CET
From Independent Party Of Rutania
ToDebating the Thalasocracy Bill II
Messageid say all military power would be nice to protect us:D but still try balancing it more..

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 57

no
    

Total Seats: 258

abstain
 

Total Seats: 185


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