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Bill: Media Reform Act 2132
Details
Submitted by[?]: RSDP - Democratic Front
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2136
Description[?]:
| An Act to reform the Rutanian media landscape. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Radio stations.
Old value:: All radio stations are private.
Current: All radio stations are owned by independent non-profit-making cooperatives which receive no subsidies from the government.
Proposed: The government subsidises a national radio station for educational and informational purposes; other private non-subsidised radio stations are allowed.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Television stations.
Old value:: All television media are private.
Current: All TV stations are owned by independent non-profit-making cooperatives which receive no subsidies from the government.
Proposed: The government subsidises a national TV station for educational and informational purposes; other private non-subsidised TV stations are allowed.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding regulation of media content.
Old value:: There are no content regulations; the media may publish anything, even proven falsehoods.
Current: There are laws against the publication of false information; everything else may be published freely.
Proposed: There are laws against the publication of false information and hate speech.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The time at which sexually explicit content may be shown on broadcast television (if allowed).
Old value:: Sexually explicit content may be shown all day long.
Current: Sexually explicit content may be shown all day long.
Proposed: Sexually explicit content may only be shown during hours that very few children watch. Nudity may be shown all day long.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 13:28:53, October 28, 2005 CET | From | Radical Freedom Party | To | Debating the Media Reform Act 2132 |
| Message | Sorry, opposed. |
| Date | 13:35:11, October 28, 2005 CET | From |  RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Media Reform Act 2132 |
| Message | Would you favour the media content proposal if it only banned known falsehoods? |
| Date | 15:03:37, October 28, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian Alcoholic Party II | To | Debating the Media Reform Act 2132 |
| Message | This whole proposal stinks. Most all of it seems geared towards the indoctrination and silencing of the general public. |
| Date | 15:53:11, October 28, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Media Reform Act 2132 |
| Message | Yeah right! :rolleyes: |
| Date | 18:40:13, October 28, 2005 CET | From | Civic Democratic Party | To | Debating the Media Reform Act 2132 |
| Message | Strongly strongly opposed. Just a few moments ago you were berating me for taking away people's rights through some honest restrictions on Trade Unions. Now you have actually set forth legislation that would limit the freedom of speech of Rutanians, even though that speech may be hate filled or disgusting to others. I believe that people should have a right to say what they want, when they want, and if you disagree with them you don't have to listen or you can actively campaign against them. You only feign respect for people's rights when it limits the power of your cronies on the left, when you actively try to curb freedom of speech in Rutania you're party nary says a word. |
| Date | 19:04:08, October 28, 2005 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Media Reform Act 2132 |
| Message | "Here here" shout the FP members after the speech from the CDP member. The RSDP is full of contradictions, it is the indoctrination and silencing of the public as saying they cant say anything 'hateful' (and we all know what the RSDP means by that) is infringing their freedom of speech. The authoritarian, conservative and prudeness of the RSDP comes forth again |
| Date | 19:14:37, October 28, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Media Reform Act 2132 |
| Message | Says a member who has REPEATEDLY voted in favour of the death penalty, corporal punishment FOR CHILDREN, mandatory military service, and numerous other blatant violations of human rights... You, Sir, are not worthy of claiming to be a "Freedom Party"! |
| Date | 21:30:46, October 28, 2005 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Media Reform Act 2132 |
| Message | Repeatedly? I have voted once for the death penalty, (OOC: After the London bombings so fuck off), Corporal punishment is something i have not voted for, i have voted to give schools the right to decide to use it or not. Mandatory military service because to have freedom you need to be willing to defend it. What other blatant violations have we 'supposedly' carried out, invented human rights that you believe and noone else does? I am not being the Freedom Party, i am a representative of them. You sir are an idiot who not only can't deduce something simple and cannot add up but has no knowledge of economics and just spouts rhetoric without meaning. |
| Date | 13:31:30, October 29, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Media Reform Act 2132 |
| Message | "Corporal punishment is something i have not voted for, i have voted to give schools the right to decide to use it or not." And the difference is? "Mandatory military service because to have freedom you need to be willing to defend it." Many renowned libertarian thinkers disagree with you. |
| Date | 13:32:05, October 29, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Media Reform Act 2132 |
| Message | "You sir are an idiot who not only can't deduce something simple and cannot add up but has no knowledge of economics and just spouts rhetoric without meaning." Mr. Speaker, I demand the "honourable" member be called to order! |
| Date | 14:02:37, October 29, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian Alcoholic Party II | To | Debating the Media Reform Act 2132 |
| Message | Sorry to side with the frothing socialist hordes here, but the RSDP is partly right. Advocating what is essentially a license to assault minors is pretty anti-libertarian. Anyway, back to this bill - banning the printing of lies is also anti-libertarian. Plus, government TV sucks. |
| Date | 19:27:50, October 29, 2005 CET | From | Radical Freedom Party | To | Debating the Media Reform Act 2132 |
| Message | We disagree with the censorship provisions in this bill so we must vote nay, unfortunately. |
| Date | 12:38:16, October 30, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Media Reform Act 2132 |
| Message | So they want workers to be able to bring the country to a stand still through needless sympathy strikes, and now they want the government to have control over the media! Welcome to the USSR, comrades! |
| Date | 15:18:41, October 30, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Media Reform Act 2132 |
| Message | Again you refuse to have a constructive debate and think you can silence us by comparing us to stalinists. |
| Date | 22:16:07, October 30, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Media Reform Act 2132 |
| Message | State controlled media is easily abused and unnecessary. What more is there to say? |
| Date | 13:34:06, October 31, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Media Reform Act 2132 |
| Message | How would this bill impose state-controlled media? |
| Date | 13:40:40, October 31, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Media Reform Act 2132 |
| Message | "The government subsidises a national radio station for educational and informational purposes." This puts media under the control of the state. "The government subsidises a national TV station for educational and informational purposes." This puts media under the control of the state. "There are laws against the publication of false information and hate speech." This allows the state to censor non-inciteful opinion. "Sexually explicit content may only be shown during hours that very few children watch. Nudity may be shown all day long." This allows the state to censor content. In what way is this NOT state control of the media? |
| Date | 11:41:03, November 05, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Media Reform Act 2132 |
| Message | "This puts media under the control of the state." It doesn't, if you fail to realise that one public station does not equal a state-controlled media landscape you have no place in this legislative assembly. "This allows the state to censor non-inciteful opinion." Nay, it does not. ;-) "This allows the state to censor content." Nay, it does not. ;-) It merely says that secually explicit content should only be shown during hours that very few children watch in order to prevent traumas and such. "In what way is this NOT state control of the media?" In what way this IS state control of the media? |
| Date | 13:29:15, November 05, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Media Reform Act 2132 |
| Message | "It doesn't, if you fail to realise that one public station does not equal a state-controlled media landscape you have no place in this legislative assembly." How is a state owned media station not controlled by the state? Are you thick or something? "Nay, it does not. ;-)" Yes it does ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) OMG!!! similies = reasoning ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) "Nay, it does not. ;-) It merely says that secually explicit content should only be shown during hours that very few children watch in order to prevent traumas and such." Aye, it does so ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) HA! ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) "In what way this IS state control of the media?" For fucks sake just read my posts and if you think "I have no arguments against this except the use of smilies" then have the decency to ceade the point. |
| Date | 20:49:57, November 05, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Media Reform Act 2132 |
| Message | OOC: Look, if you can't debate constructively and conduct yourself with proper decorum, I'm going to consider reporting you to the Mods. You are obviously trolling, and you cannot claim it is IC, this post clearly goes beyond the IC nature of this debate. |
| Date | 11:35:46, November 06, 2005 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Media Reform Act 2132 |
| Message | You use smilies all the time, you could be trolling. Back to the bill, you completely ignore his points and disagree with something that is blindingly obvious, this gives state control over the media. If you want i can start a poll on the forum and prove to you that most people would consider it such, |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 203 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 341 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 55 |
| Random fact: Players who consent to a particular role-play by acknowledging it in their own role-play cannot then disown it or withdraw their consent from it. For example, if player A role-plays the assassination of player B's character, and player B then acknowledges the assassination in a news post, but then backtracks and insists the assassination did not happen, then he will be required under the rules to accept the validity of the assassination role-play. |
| Random quote: "The secret of freedom lies in educating people, whereas the secret of tyranny is in keeping them ignorant." - Maximilien Robespierre |