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Bill: Ratification of the Free Markets Treaty
Details
Submitted by[?]: Freedom Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes for the ratification of a treaty. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2154
Description[?]:
| This bill asks for the ratification of the Free Markets Treaty. If this treaty is ratified, it becomes binding and will define national law. |
Proposals
Article 1
Ratify the Free Markets Treaty.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 13:30:50, October 29, 2005 CET | From |  Freedom Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Free Markets Treaty |
| Message | Well you wanted me to be active |
| Date | 13:35:48, October 29, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Ratification of the Free Markets Treaty |
| Message | The hypocricy is astounding! You want us to withdraw from all human rights instruments, you refuse to move for the ratification of a declaration affirming our commitment to the rights of a large part of the population, and you say that's because you don't want the Federal Parliament to be bound by international treaties. Yet you have no problem with forcing this capitalist bullshit upon us! I move for the IMMEDIATE resignation of our Foreign Minister! |
| Date | 15:00:28, October 29, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Free Markets Treaty |
| Message | Against, but if it looks like it's about to pass we'll vote in favour just to spite the commies. |
| Date | 15:40:50, October 29, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Ratification of the Free Markets Treaty |
| Message | Commies? Where? :-P |
| Date | 16:20:11, October 29, 2005 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Free Markets Treaty |
| Message | You. Do you not realise i seek ratification just to spite you, to piss you off and because you want an 'active' foreign minister |
| Date | 17:06:38, October 29, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Ratification of the Free Markets Treaty |
| Message | A Foreign Minister who initiates ratification processes with the sole intent of pissing someone off is clearly not fit for his duties. |
| Date | 19:24:52, October 29, 2005 CET | From | Radical Freedom Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Free Markets Treaty |
| Message | Agreed. This is ridicilous agenda-pushing and it exposes the hypocrisy of the Freedom Party in blasting the RDSP for being "anti-sovereign" and whatnot. Really, you just lost *any* sort of moral platform to say that. |
| Date | 20:27:57, October 29, 2005 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Free Markets Treaty |
| Message | Im not even going to send this to vote, you guys wanted me to seek ratification of treaties, hell you asked me to, and yet if i did, as i knew you would. You call me names and say its not fair and bullshit and whatnot. |
| Date | 21:22:27, October 29, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Ratification of the Free Markets Treaty |
| Message | You know very well what we meant, we wanted you to reaffirm our commitment to human rights. Which you have refused, you even wanted to withdraw from all human rights standards we ratified! |
| Date | 22:11:00, October 29, 2005 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Free Markets Treaty |
| Message | Because it is not a human rights treaty, it allows governments to force membership of unions and seize property for commerical purposes |
| Date | 10:43:48, October 30, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Ratification of the Free Markets Treaty |
| Message | Then propose an additional human rights standard and stop moaning! |
| Date | 12:35:41, October 30, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Free Markets Treaty |
| Message | You mean you wanted him to propose treaties that YOU liked. Sorry, this isnt the USSR, RSDP, as much as you would like, and people here have "CONFLICTING OPINIONS" which are "NOT ALWAYS THE SAME AS YOURS". |
| Date | 15:09:28, October 30, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Ratification of the Free Markets Treaty |
| Message | You accuse us of authoritarianism? I'm sorry, but WHO is trying to lock their capitalist views in a treaty? The current coalition government is obviously utterly and completely incompetent. |
| Date | 16:35:36, October 30, 2005 CET | From | Radical Freedom Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Free Markets Treaty |
| Message | The Rt. Hon. gentleman of the LIP is obviously too stupid and thickheaded to understand the accusation that the Freedom Party completely lacks any principles, bringing to vote ideological treaties whilst lambasting the RSDP for doing the same during the four years (out of 200) that they held the foreign office. The RFP, for its part, does not *mind* this treaty being proposed but we do mind the arrogant and dismissive hatred displayed by the Right Coalition against the social-democrats for propsing basic human rights and environmental treaties, only to do the *very same thing* when it is in power. It makes the accusations so very, very hollow. We broadly agree with the provisions outlined in this treaty, but oppose the restrictions on the media that it proposes. |
| Date | 22:37:08, October 30, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Free Markets Treaty |
| Message | "You accuse us of authoritarianism? I'm sorry, but WHO is trying to lock their capitalist views in a treaty?" ROFLMAO!!! The hypocrisy is overpowering. At least I ADMITTED that I was being hippocritical in an attempt to annoy you. "The Rt. Hon. gentleman of the LIP is obviously too stupid and thickheaded to understand the accusation that the Freedom Party completely lacks any principles, bringing to vote ideological treaties whilst lambasting the RSDP for doing the same during the four years (out of 200) that they held the foreign office." Clearly the gentleman (I would say Rt Hon but it would be a lie) on the opposite bench does not understand that this treaty is born out of furstration. I should have hoped that the Freedom Party had made it quite clear enough by now. "The RFP, for its part, does not *mind* this treaty being proposed but we do mind the arrogant and dismissive hatred displayed by the Right Coalition against the social-democrats for propsing basic human rights and environmental treaties, only to do the *very same thing* when it is in power. It makes the accusations so very, very hollow." We *do* mind this, and ALL OTHER treaties that are proposed because despite the possible good intentions of some among them, these treaties are nothing more than a pathetic attempt to use a short term supermajority to lock national policy against a future majority. We believe that Parliament should not be restricted in this shameful way, which is why we are conducting this protest (and it is a protest, because this treaty will clearly fail). Perhaps you, in your so CLEARLY enlightened way, are not capable of seeing this? |
| Date | 23:08:45, October 30, 2005 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Free Markets Treaty |
| Message | RSDP said "You know very well what we meant, we wanted you to reaffirm our commitment to human rights. Which you have refused, you even wanted to withdraw from all human rights standards we ratified!" Why cant we reaffirm our commitment to free markets? Why should we not do that? Because you dont agree with it? That is hypocrisy my friend You want us to do what you stand for but not what we stand for |
| Date | 13:27:39, October 31, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Ratification of the Free Markets Treaty |
| Message | So you want to reaffirm our commitment to free markets, but not to human rights? In other words, you want to affirm your commitment to fascism? |
| Date | 13:37:55, October 31, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Free Markets Treaty |
| Message | Fascism = massive state control =/= free market. |
| Date | 15:53:36, November 04, 2005 CET | From | Radical Freedom Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Free Markets Treaty |
| Message | So this treaty is borne out of "frustration" with the Freedom Parties own principles? And I take it the Liberal Imperialist Party, true to its principles, will oppose it then? |
| Date | 11:44:29, November 05, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Ratification of the Free Markets Treaty |
| Message | "these treaties are nothing more than a pathetic attempt to use a short term supermajority to lock national policy against a future majority. We believe that Parliament should not be restricted in this shameful way," 1. Withdrawals. 2. These treaties, even if their provisions are already implement, reaffirm our commitment to the principles outlined therein. |
| Date | 13:16:21, November 12, 2005 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Free Markets Treaty |
| Message | Re affirming a commitment to free markets is the same as doing it for human rights. If you want human rights treaties, then we want free market treaties. Of course you dont want free market treaties as it is not in your interest to do so. You have proposed environmental legislation that has nothing to do with human rights and is you pushing YOUR partisan agenda and when i try to push MY partisan agenda you call for my dismissal as Foreign Minister, and call me up for hypocrisy and being unfair. Well... The hypocrisy shown by the RSDP is overwhelming. |
| Date | 18:06:27, December 11, 2005 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Free Markets Treaty |
| Message | Sending this to vote to get rid of it from the debate list and to store the debate |
| Date | 19:41:00, December 11, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Ratification of the Free Markets Treaty |
| Message | And this is not "restricting Parliament", you hypocrite bastard? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 65 | |||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 534 | |||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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