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Bill: Deltarian Opposition Government

Details

Submitted by[?]: Nacional Unionist Badaran Arbeits Partei

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: April 2145

Description[?]:

There are approximatley 83,000 Deltarians in Al'Badara that have fled persecution and the current Government. Hans Nchovdsky ,leader of the Campaign for Social Justice ( A banned Deltarian offshoot of the old CSJ in Badra) has proposed that Al'Badara be the location for a Deltarian government in exile.

This Government will be located at the old Deltarian Embassy in Gharki and will be the only official Deltarian Channel we recognise.

Here is the Proposed cabinet;

Head Of State (In Exile); Lena Klinvic (Non Aligned)
Head Of Government (In Exile); Hans Nchovdsky (Campaign For Social Justice)
Head Of Finance (In Exile); Militov Nsadakli (National Unionists Of Deltaria)
Foreign Minister (In Exile); Lisa Timov (LIBERTY)
Human Rights Head (In Exile); Franz Munster (LIBERTY)
Representitive Towards Al'Badra; Said Na Wasidi (Deltarian Majatran Front)
Head Of Southern Resistance Forces; (Rank given on behest of his majesty the Sultan) Mj.General. Nicolas Tanenhaber (United Democractic Socialist Workers Party)
Head of Northern Resistance Forces; General Heinrich Dovour (Campaign For Social Justice)

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date20:18:45, October 29, 2005 CET
FromUnion of Progressive Ulama
ToDebating the Deltarian Opposition Government
MessageHave you discussed this with the Deltarians?

Date22:42:28, October 29, 2005 CET
FromRevolutionary Socialist Council
ToDebating the Deltarian Opposition Government
MessageDeltaria still have elections, this will undermine thier voters choice.

Date02:04:27, October 30, 2005 CET
FromMajatran Socialist Party
ToDebating the Deltarian Opposition Government
MessageWe are unhappy having Deltarians in our country. We say we give them weapons and training and send them home.

Date05:36:34, October 30, 2005 CET
FromBátory Dynastia
ToDebating the Deltarian Opposition Government
MessageThis is an utter travesty. We demand the immediate extradition of these vile traitorous criminals.

http://82.238.75.178:8085/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=27560

Date11:45:10, October 30, 2005 CET
FromRevolutionary Socialist Council
ToDebating the Deltarian Opposition Government
MessageWhat? A bunch of random people in exile should be proclaimed the government of a democratic country? This is crazy.

Date21:02:23, October 30, 2005 CET
FromAl'Badaran Alliance
ToDebating the Deltarian Opposition Government
MessageI would like to point out that the Badaraans, are partially of Deltarian desecnt, and they form the bedrock of my parties support, so there are at last 1.5 million of them, 10% of the electorate.

Date00:18:50, October 31, 2005 CET
FromUnion of Progressive Ulama
ToDebating the Deltarian Opposition Government
MessageScandalous lies against the purity of our nation! There is no Deltarian blood in the neins of anyone in our multicultural nation.

The foreign minister has resigned, so can someone else handle this matter?

Our laws may bar us from extraditing anyone to Deltaria, where torture and the murder fo dissidents is routine.

Date05:59:40, October 31, 2005 CET
FromBátory Dynastia
ToDebating the Deltarian Opposition Government
MessageOOC ; The Deltarians have Majatran blood from several hundred years ago when our cultures mingled (but if you tell a modern Deltarian that, he will most likely try to kill you). It doesn't seem to outrageous to think that Badaraans might have centuries-old Deltarian blood too.

Date11:45:52, October 31, 2005 CET
FromAl'Badaran Alliance
ToDebating the Deltarian Opposition Government
MessageBadaraans are not Majatran however! (Think of the Afrikanaars)

Date15:20:40, October 31, 2005 CET
FromBátory Dynastia
ToDebating the Deltarian Opposition Government
MessageAs far as I know, (and correct me if I'm wrong), the indiginous Majatrans are of a race similar to RL negroes or oceanic aboriginals. The race described as 'Majatran' are ancient settlers of Majatra, similar to RL semitic races. The ethnic Deltarians are an Artanian race (similar to RL nordic or germanic) who colonised and committed mass atrocities whilst consolidating their power, 400-600 years ago.

If the BSP want to RP a white supremacist party, I see no reason not to let them. In a mostly-liberal nation like Al'Badara, there could be modern white settlers (perhaps not Deltarian, but definitely pure Artanians). In Deltaria, due to the xenophobic and racist nature of the government it could cause some issues, but we would willingly try to alter our RP of Deltaria to allow a black or arabic supremacist party.

Secondly, no matter how many votes the BSP gets, I don't see how their votes should relate to the demography of Al'Badara. They could get 50% of the votes and still only have a 2% white population within Al'Badara, the remaining votes could be made up by arabs guilted into sympathising with the white minority.

Date21:28:39, October 31, 2005 CET
FromUnion of Progressive Ulama
ToDebating the Deltarian Opposition Government
MessageOOC, anything acceptable to the other parties is acceptable to me. IC, the UPU will deny any Deltarian ancestry among our people, much as Deltarians deny any Semitic blood in themselves.

Date14:17:03, November 03, 2005 CET
FromBátory Dynastia
ToDebating the Deltarian Opposition Government
MessageHrm... I was thinking (based on the BSP's proposed RP) the Deltarians or Artanians might have had a very small minority in Al'Badara, whilst in Deltaria the Deltarian race is the ONLY race, (but every single Deltarian has a small percentage of Majatran blood)

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