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Bill: End of Aristocracy Proposal
Details
Submitted by[?]: Novy Smer Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2133
Description[?]:
| We propose to strip all aristocrats in Aldegar of their titles. Aldegar is a republic and so we should cut our ties with the days of the Monarchist Party who legalised slavery etc, etc, etc. This also means we can give a black eye to the Grand Duke of Hikirena and that must surely be very tempting to all parties except the Ducal Delegation. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:57:30, October 29, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Conservatives | To | Debating the End of Aristocracy Proposal |
| Message | We support this move. An aristocracy in this country would undermine our democratic institution. |
| Date | 19:53:38, October 29, 2005 CET | From |  Ducal Delegation | To | Debating the End of Aristocracy Proposal |
| Message | His Grace received his title from God and not from the Grand Council. This proposal is an indecent, disrespectful, un-Aldegarian and outrageous act of anarchic social engineering and sacrilege. It is a foul attempt by the mediocre to drag everybody else down to their own level of mediocrity. If this corrupt, socialist-fascist government refuses to recognise His Grace, His Grace will refuse to recognise this government. Let the scoundrels consider themselves warned! Percy Waterman (Personal Secretary to the Grand Duke of Hikirena) |
| Date | 20:01:27, October 29, 2005 CET | From | Aldegar Liberty Party | To | Debating the End of Aristocracy Proposal |
| Message | I see no reason to arbitraly deprive people of their titles, if the Grand Duke of Hikirena wishes to address himself as such, let him. What harm does it bring to the populace other than his Grace's over inflated self-worth? |
| Date | 06:45:53, October 30, 2005 CET | From | Sanctaphrax Party | To | Debating the End of Aristocracy Proposal |
| Message | We must admit this does seem a bit like petulance from the Novy Smers. As the Neo-Libertarians said, what harm does it bring to the populace? |
| Date | 13:17:28, October 30, 2005 CET | From | Novy Smer Party | To | Debating the End of Aristocracy Proposal |
| Message | The idea of aristocrats wandering around using these titles undermines the survival of the republican government. Such a move is not unusual, Czechoslovakia and Hungary both made the use of old aristocratic titles illegal between 1948 and 1989. |
| Date | 13:56:24, October 30, 2005 CET | From | Fenner Brockway Socialist Party | To | Debating the End of Aristocracy Proposal |
| Message | I've read the text of this bill and it doesn't make it illegal for someone to call themselves a Duke, even though the Novy Smer might favour that. Rather, it strips their title of state recognition - it strips them of the formal, state-recognized title. It stops the state from endorsing and promoting aristocracy. This is therefore a libertarian bill, in our view, and we support it, unlike the libertarians. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 173 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 123 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Once approved, players should copy Cultural Protocols into a bill in the debate section of their nation page, under the title of "OOC: Cultural Protocols". This bill should include links to the passed Cultural Protocol bill and the Moderation approval. |
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