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Bill: Army of Beluzia follow USCRRA

Details

Submitted by[?]: United Sizpoao Comrade RevolutionRedArmy

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: August 2885

Description[?]:

After resign of USCRRA shock whole nation and today entire army of Beluzia, police departments of Beluzia, courts and justice of Beluzia, farmers, workers decided to follow USCRRA instead of serving under liberal or fascist led new government. Even USCRRA Sizpo Assembly and USCRRA Red Parliament moved to new place that USCRRA stronghold area. During USCRRA era, all police, army, government officers, justice are directly elected by mass people of whole nation.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date15:28:56, January 27, 2010 CET
FromConstitutional Monarchy Party
ToDebating the Army of Beluzia follow USCRRA
MessageOOC: Actually you can't... you don't have any ministries to say you control any of these people...

Date17:21:52, January 27, 2010 CET
FromConstitutional Monarchy Party
ToDebating the Army of Beluzia follow USCRRA
MessageOOC: Hate quoting rules... they are on the forum...

5.3.7 Godmoding is forbidden as defined in Section 9.5.

5.3.8 A Roleplay is only valid if all players involved consent to it and continue to do so throughout the duration.

6.3.9 In the event of Civil War, the Nation's army will be divided between the factions and not support the majority or party of the Defence Minister by default.

6.3.9.1 The Nation's army in a Civil War is divided in number but count as paramilitaries as defined in the Rildanor Accord (viewtopic.php?f=6&t=40) and its successors.


It seems I was wrong in regards to the ministry thing though. I am all for role playing, but you can't claim that your party controls the whole army, police, courts, farmers and workers. You don't even have 50% in Parliament...

Perhaps you could make a more reasonable suggestion? Then I will consider playing this roleplay.

Date21:21:58, January 27, 2010 CET
FromPeople's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia
ToDebating the Army of Beluzia follow USCRRA
Messageooc: we can assume he had some loyalists join him tho, and that his party is grotesquely exaggerating their numbers ;)

Date21:22:48, January 27, 2010 CET
FromPeople's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia
ToDebating the Army of Beluzia follow USCRRA
Messageooc: also if 100% of seats inc. defense minister voted in favor of this, I suppose it would become true?

Date01:11:41, January 28, 2010 CET
FromConstitutional Monarchy Party
ToDebating the Army of Beluzia follow USCRRA
MessageOOC: I would concede the possibility that some followers would defect...
I guess if we all supported this then it would become true, we would be giving our consent..

IC: The Government released a statement earlier today regarding these claims
"The people of Beluzia need not worry, the number of employees in the police and army who have defected to the USCRRA faction are relatively few. Needless to say, the country will continue to function, it is business as usual in government departments."

Date05:35:41, January 28, 2010 CET
FromPeople's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia
ToDebating the Army of Beluzia follow USCRRA
MessageGrand Emperor Zog is the only REAL "government" the People have EVER had!!!

Date09:40:23, January 28, 2010 CET
FromThai Liberal Democratic Party
ToDebating the Army of Beluzia follow USCRRA
MessageI don't think it is so few. USCRRA control 40% of seat means they have enoughs support from army too. MAybe people elect army and ask them to quit :)

Date15:19:56, January 28, 2010 CET
FromConstitutional Monarchy Party
ToDebating the Army of Beluzia follow USCRRA
Message40% is less than half... not enough to claim anything like the numbers that USCRRA say they have.

Date02:03:27, January 29, 2010 CET
FromPeople's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia
ToDebating the Army of Beluzia follow USCRRA
Messageooc: let us agree that 40 % is "a lot", but not "most" or "all" ;)

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
 

Total Seats: 40

no
    

Total Seats: 38

abstain
 

Total Seats: 19


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