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Bill: population control
Details
Submitted by[?]: Libertarian party of Darnussia
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2135
Description[?]:
| i just got a better idea, people need to prove hey're good aprents so now they can! |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's stance on population control.
Old value:: The government does not engage in population control.
Current: The government actively promotes population growth.
Proposed: The government actively promotes population growth.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:37:00, October 31, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the population control |
| Message | No, just no |
| Date | 22:38:42, October 31, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the population control |
| Message | why no? |
| Date | 23:34:06, October 31, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the population control |
| Message | Its too much of a Nanny State, even for me, We should ensure there is no child abuse in society of course, but tests seems too much like interfering and what will be on the tests? Income? What about disabled people who might be perfectly good parents, apart from there disability? What if people have a child without taking the test? Who are we to decide what should be on the test (The questions) and what are the right or wrong anwsers to the questions? We do not have the right and should not have the right |
| Date | 15:32:13, November 01, 2005 CET | From | Free Market Party | To | Debating the population control |
| Message | what an awesome proposal, can i bet on this not getting through? my whole mighty vote share is against this totalitarian plan! |
| Date | 17:46:02, November 01, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the population control |
| Message | 'Its too much of a Nanny State, even for me, We should ensure there is no child abuse in society of course, but tests seems too much like interfering and what will be on the tests? Income?' That is for the child-psychologists and experts to decide, and it makes sure children will not be abused (as in psychological tests). 'What about disabled people who might be perfectly good parents, apart from there disability?' I am against disabled people getting children. 'What if people have a child without taking the test?' Then they pay extra tax until they pass the test. 'Who are we to decide what should be on the test (The questions) and what are the right or wrong anwsers to the questions?' We dont, the experts do. |
| Date | 18:16:39, November 01, 2005 CET | From | Chinkopodian Economic Democrats | To | Debating the population control |
| Message | "I am against disabled people getting children." Nazi. In many cases, disabled people can care for children just as well. "Then they pay extra tax until they pass the test." So what in the case of accidental births? Surely that's stripping money off when people can't help it? If someone does not qualify as a good parent but has had an accidental birth, then what if they never pass the test? Will you lift more money off them? Drive them into poverty? "We dont, the experts do." Like the 'expert' who led to the wrongful imprisonment of many woman over cot deaths? One wrong decision and we could have thousands of people unable to have children. |
| Date | 19:07:24, November 01, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the population control |
| Message | 'Nazi. In many cases, disabled people can care for children just as well.' Not nazi, realist. I've spoken to doctors about the subject, first a was pro, but talking to a doctor changes your mind 'So what in the case of accidental births? Surely that's stripping money off when people can't help it? If someone does not qualify as a good parent but has had an accidental birth, then what if they never pass the test? Will you lift more money off them? Drive them into poverty?' We give free contraception. And we allow abortion... And they wont be driven into poverty, they'll pay higher taxes that doesn't say drive them into poverty... 'Like the 'expert' who led to the wrongful imprisonment of many woman over cot deaths? One wrong decision and w could have thousands of people unable to have children.' I said expertS |
| Date | 20:03:20, November 01, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the population control |
| Message | There is more then a whiff of the gas chamber about your view on disabled people having chidlren |
| Date | 22:27:18, November 01, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the population control |
| Message | This absolutely hilarious. The Rally for the Republic is in complete opposition to any attempts by the state to control and legislate the affairs between a consenting couple in the bedroom. How on Earth do you plan to enforce this anyway? |
| Date | 22:33:21, November 01, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the population control |
| Message | they ahve to register they're children *surprise*. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 23 | |||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 156 | |||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 22 |
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