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Bill: Budget proposal of June 2134
Details
Submitted by[?]: Cooperative Commonwealth Federation
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes to change the allocation of funds in the budget. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2135
Description[?]:
The Green Action:defending the taxpayer propose to adjust the government's spending budget to better address the economic and social situation of the Five Nations of Lodamun. |
Proposals
Article 1
Ministry | Current Budget | Old Budget | Propesed Budget |
Head of Government | 500,000,000 LOD | 0 LOD | 10,000,000 LOD |
Foreign Affairs | 4,000,000,000 LOD | 0 LOD | 500,000,000 LOD |
Internal Affairs | 6,000,000,000 LOD | 0 LOD | 1,000,000,000 LOD |
Finance | 1,500,000,000 LOD | 0 LOD | 200,000,000 LOD |
Defence | 11,500,000,000 LOD | 0 LOD | 1,000,000,000 LOD |
Justice | 5,500,000,000 LOD | 0 LOD | 1,000,000,000 LOD |
Infrastructure and Transport | 7,500,000,000 LOD | 0 LOD | 500,000,000 LOD |
Health and Social Services | 20,000,000,000 LOD | 0 LOD | 10,000,000 LOD |
Education and Culture | 17,500,000,000 LOD | 0 LOD | 1,000,000,000 LOD |
Science and Technology | 2,000,000,000 LOD | 0 LOD | 100,000,000 LOD |
Food and Agriculture | 5,000,000,000 LOD | 0 LOD | 10,000,000 LOD |
Environment and Tourism | 500,000,000 LOD | 0 LOD | 200,000,000 LOD |
Trade and Industry | 5,500,000,000 LOD | 0 LOD | 10,000,000 LOD |
Total | 87,000,000,000 LOD | 0 LOD | 5,540,000,000 LOD |
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 18:29:37, November 01, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Budget proposal of June 2134 |
Message | The bloated budgets of the three biggest deaprtments (defence, justice and internal affairs) are slashed to bring them down to the level of education. One billion Lodamun dollars is enough for any department, no matter how bureaucratic and wasteful it may be. |
Date | 18:30:58, November 01, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Budget proposal of June 2134 |
Message | The total savings to the Lodamun taxpayer, by the way, is $6-billion, more than half the government budget, achieved with no cuts to social services and priorities that matter only to people. |
Date | 19:23:25, November 01, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Budget proposal of June 2134 |
Message | The three areas you are proposing to cut are the main areas in which a government is justified to exist. |
Date | 19:28:12, November 01, 2005 CET | From | International Society of Bankers | To | Debating the Budget proposal of June 2134 |
Message | support all budget cuts except on defense and Infrastructure. We vote no. |
Date | 02:00:40, November 02, 2005 CET | From | CNT/AFL | To | Debating the Budget proposal of June 2134 |
Message | We cannot support a budget that so severely shortchanges our healthcare system and social safety net. |
Date | 03:14:48, November 02, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Budget proposal of June 2134 |
Message | There are no cuts to health care and social safety. There are no cuts to any area except the three Bloated Government Departments: Defence, Justice, and Interior. Why Justice in particular needs so much money, we can't even imagine. These three will still have immense budgets, plenty of money to fritter away on moonbeams and flying battleships. Big Government needs to be reduced. These savings can be acheived through reductions in bureaucracy, duplication, and excess waste. Do we really need to pay so much for fancy sofa-beds for the chiefs of police brothel, or for General Tsao's legendary love of ordering in Crispy Jorka Duck by the bucket? Do we really need to pay hundreds of dollars for a wrench from General Dynamic MegaCorp? No, time to cut the waste. |
Date | 04:48:20, November 02, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Budget proposal of June 2134 |
Message | GA, we are willing to negotiate a permanent solution to the budget. 3 functions of government: Defending the nation from outside threats Defending the citizens from other people Civil Dispute Resolution and Criminal Justice For Justice, we hope to have the state subsidize all criminal representation, and thus to end the discrimination currently available. And it's a bit hard for my party to have a secret police without a decent IA budget |
Date | 17:43:59, November 02, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Budget proposal of June 2134 |
Message | We do not agree that those are the three main functions of government. Nor do we support a dangerous cult having their own secret police (shock!). What we can see very clearly see is that we can cut government spending to less than half its current bloated and wasteful size, by making cuts to the three most wasteful departments. Take justice as an example: the alternative dispute settlement mechanisms passed some eyars ago mean that we no longer have to waste taxpayer money on free lawyers for everyone who wants to argue with their neighbour over the location of a fence. Instead, it can be settled between them by mediation, making for a less adversarial society and massive savings for the ordinary taxpayer. Which shall it be: secret police for the Faithful and sweet payoff deals for lawyers? Or smaller government? Let's vote and let the people see who really wants smaller government. |
Date | 09:41:29, November 04, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Budget proposal of June 2134 |
Message | Sorry, I didnt mean to abstain here. I may have supported this, and am willing to negotiate on a budget acceptable to the GA party. To be clear, there is no secret police, nor will there ever be. If there were, hypothetically, to ever be a secret police, it would be a secret, and I would deny it's existence. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||||
yes |
Total Seats: 126 | |||||
no |
Total Seats: 82 | |||||
abstain |
Total Seats: 92 |
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