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Bill: Immeressen Decrees: Forward the Revolution!
Details
Submitted by[?]: Throne of Immeressen
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2899
Description[?]:
| We are bringing this continuous agenda forward to the vote, before it gets too unweildy. The two articles regarding religion, are obviously discussing Immeressence. i.e. Adulthood is determined by membership in the Immeressent church, and Immeressent view shape the death-penalty laws. (Immeressent views on the death penalty allow for executions in the case of serious or serial crimes: such as crimes against the state, murder, rape, blasphemy, etc. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The way adulthood is determined.
Old value:: Everyone is considered an adult.
Current: Adulthood is determined by age.
Proposed: Adulthood is determined by religion.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning biological and chemical weaponry.
Old value:: The nation reserves the right to develop, construct and store biological and chemical weapons.
Current: The nation reserves the right to develop, construct and store biological and chemical weapons.
Proposed: The nation shall never develop, purchase or store biological or chemical weaponry.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning child labour.
Old value:: Child labour is allowed, but with additional regulations to those of adult labourers.
Current: Child labour is forbidden.
Proposed: Child labour is forbidden.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Government policy with respect to the death penalty.
Old value:: The death penalty is applied for capital crimes.
Current: The death penalty is not applied, except for terrorism, treason and crimes against mankind.
Proposed: Religious doctrine determines the death penalty.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The right to euthanasia.
Old value:: Euthanasia is allowed with consent from the patient and the treating doctor.
Current: Euthanasia is allowed with consent from the patient and the treating doctor.
Proposed: Euthanasia is mandated for the old and sick
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change Structure of the executive branch.
Old value:: The Head of State is also Head of Government.
Current: The Head of State is hereditary and symbolic; the Head of Government chairs the cabinet.
Proposed: The Head of State is hereditary and symbolic; the Head of Government chairs the cabinet.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change
The government's policy regarding foreign investments.
Old value:: Foreign investors may invest in national companies, but may not get a majority share.
Current: Foreign investors may freely invest in national companies.
Proposed: Foreign investors may freely invest in national companies.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards the cloning of human beings.
Old value:: The cloning of human beings is illegal.
Current: Research in cloning technologies is legal, but regulated.
Proposed: Research in cloning technologies is not regulated.
Article 9
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards the use of land mines by the army.
Old value:: The use of land mines is allowed.
Current: The use of land mines is allowed.
Proposed: The use of land mines is prohibited.
Article 10
Proposal[?] to change Discrimination in the military on grounds of race/religion.
Old value:: Any adult citizen can serve in the military, discrimination for racial or religious reasons is prohibited.
Current: Any adult citizen can serve in the military, discrimination for racial or religious reasons is prohibited.
Proposed: Candidates must be of a certain race/religion to be armed or take part in combat.
Article 11
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of nuclear weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in warfare for any reason.
Current: The nation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in retaliation to any attack.
Proposed: The nation shall never use nuclear weapons in warfare.
Article 12
Proposal[?] to change The policy with respect to nuclear weaponry.
Old value:: The nation reserves the right to develop, produce and store nuclear arms.
Current: The nation reserves the right to develop, produce and store nuclear arms.
Proposed: The nation shall never develop, produce or store nuclear weaponry.
Article 13
Proposal[?] to change The weapons used by police forces.
Old value:: Police officers may only carry standard firearms apart from specially trained firearms units.
Current: Police officers may only carry standard firearms apart from specially trained firearms units.
Proposed: Police officers may only carry non-lethal weapons.
Article 14
Proposal[?] to change Government's policy towards the powers of the police.
Old value:: The powers of the police are not restricted.
Current: The police may arrest crime suspects.
Proposed: The police may arrest crime suspects.
Article 15
Proposal[?] to change The use of torture for obtaining information.
Old value:: It is at the discretion of the police officer to torture suspects for information.
Current: Torture is never allowed.
Proposed: Torture is never allowed.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:07:38, February 22, 2010 CET | From | United Workers | To | Debating the Immeressen Decrees: Forward the Revolution! |
| Message | I dont understand what you are trying to achieve... It seems a little pointless to disctriminate against almost every religion in the country, and all those members, and then go and allow foreign investors free range. This is a remarkable oxy-moron...? The Military bills are extreamly pacifist, and we may find some place to support them, but as a party which is attempting to put workers into high consideration, the trade implications of taking away these industies seem to be less enificial than arming the country to the teeth, and making sure that unemployment levels are lower, as the weapons may be sold to pay wages... If you can find a way in which all of these workers are going get a job afterwards, i may find some way to support, otherwise, it is not a good idea... |
| Date | 19:20:49, February 22, 2010 CET | From | Christian Democrat Party | To | Debating the Immeressen Decrees: Forward the Revolution! |
| Message | Sick!! Article 8 is sick!! |
| Date | 01:57:20, February 23, 2010 CET | From | Throne of Immeressen | To | Debating the Immeressen Decrees: Forward the Revolution! |
| Message | Response to the Christain Democrat Party: Not at all, Article 8 is FOR the sick. And the old. Why would you want people to suffer? |
| Date | 02:10:33, February 23, 2010 CET | From | Throne of Immeressen | To | Debating the Immeressen Decrees: Forward the Revolution! |
| Message | Response to United Workers: How are we discriminating against every religion? There's only one religion in Likatonia - the worship of the Immortal Zhelezo Immeressen. Everything else is a false mockery of the One True God. There's no conflict between limiting false religions in our own country, and accepting foreign investment - we wouldn't see why anyone would object to profit. Regarding the defence industry question - defence industries are a net drain. They require payment for a product that we don't sell - indeed, the only way we get any recompense from those products... is by using those products to destroy things. Flushing money down the drain... it seems counter-productive. |
| Date | 12:29:45, February 23, 2010 CET | From |  Likaton Coalition of the Willing | To | Debating the Immeressen Decrees: Forward the Revolution! |
| Message | We cannot support removing the teeth from our brave men and women of the armed forces. |
| Date | 16:04:24, February 23, 2010 CET | From | Throne of Immeressen | To | Debating the Immeressen Decrees: Forward the Revolution! |
| Message | No no no... the teeth were one of the things we were in favour of letting them keep. Nails, too. And maybe a big stick, or a rock, or a plank with nails in it. |
| Date | 17:58:00, February 23, 2010 CET | From | Likaton Coalition of the Willing | To | Debating the Immeressen Decrees: Forward the Revolution! |
| Message | We were referring to metaphorocal teeth, but the cuts that are suggested here may well lead to our troops losing more than just their dentae |
| Date | 22:09:44, February 23, 2010 CET | From | Throne of Immeressen | To | Debating the Immeressen Decrees: Forward the Revolution! |
| Message | Well, ideally, we won't be needing to be putting troops in harms way, if our peace agenda bears fruit. Then teeth, real or metaphorical, will be both irrelevant and secure. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 195 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 471 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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