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Bill: HNP Cabinet Proposal of August 2897
Details
Submitted by[?]: Hutorian Conservative Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2898
Description[?]:
| Cabinet Proposal between the HNP, Facists and the Radical Republicans |
Proposals
Article 1
The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the Hutorian Conservative Party
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Hutorian Conservative Party
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Fortunato's Fascist Formation
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Union of Radical Republicans (UM)
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Hutorian Conservative Party
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Fortunato's Fascist Formation
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Hutorian Conservative Party
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Hutorian Conservative Party
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Fortunato's Fascist Formation
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Fortunato's Fascist Formation
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Fortunato's Fascist Formation
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Hutorian Conservative Party
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Union of Radical Republicans (UM)
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:44:14, February 21, 2010 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the HNP Cabinet Proposal of August 2897 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, the HNP accuse us of clinging to power? This proposal simply demonstrates hypocrisy! Madam Speaker, I am confident in the URR to oppose this - they are a party welded to democracy and liberty and I am sure that they could never work with fascists. Should they suport this, Madam Speaker, the people of Hutori would punish them for it. |
| Date | 20:50:17, February 21, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the HNP Cabinet Proposal of August 2897 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, under the terms of this proposal, the HNP are prepared to offer the URR abolition of the Monarchy for their support in this coalition! Is the CLP prepared to make such comprimises in their coalition? |
| Date | 20:54:44, February 21, 2010 CET | From | Union of Radical Republicans (UM) | To | Debating the HNP Cabinet Proposal of August 2897 |
| Message | Madame Speaker, not only would we never join their government, I cannot see why the nationalists would believe we would join such a terrible deal for us. If we had had some assurance of a preservation of rights in- and external – but all you would give the liberty-loving people of Hutori is scraps? The contempt the nationalists show for us in this bill is stunning. |
| Date | 21:23:10, February 21, 2010 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the HNP Cabinet Proposal of August 2897 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, not so long ago, the HNP publicly declared their support for the monarchy and for the constitutional settlement. How can they turn such important issues into a political football? Perhaps they would like to explain to the people why they said this and why they have performed a most spectacular U-turn? Which do they truly believe? Madam Speaker, they put the push for power before principles, and that is most dangerous. |
| Date | 21:38:41, February 21, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the HNP Cabinet Proposal of August 2897 |
| Message | Madam Speaker the NSP should know better than to reveal publically the details of confidential party talks. The HNP agreed to drop its anti-monarchy policy if the NSP supported its coalition. The HNP abandonded its attempts to remove the monarchy and it was the NSP who did not hold up their end of the bargain! It is the NSP who cannot keep to their word. This shows why the people have no faith in the NSP as shown in the last election! |
| Date | 21:54:52, February 21, 2010 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the HNP Cabinet Proposal of August 2897 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, the gentleman either forgets the statement issue from his party's central office, or he was never aware of it. Madam Speaker, not so long ago, this was issued by the HNP: "The HNP would like to publically declare that it supports the current political system and the Monarch, His Most Royal and Serene Majesty, King George I ." Madam Speaker, transcripts of the press release are widely available. Again, Madam Speaker, how can the HNP expect to be seen as a serious party when they use issues such as this to try and gain power? Madam Speaker, though I disagree greatly with the NSP and the URR and, dare I say it, even the nationalists, on many many grounds, at least all of these parties have principles. The HNP would be prepared to accept any principles in it quenched their thirst for power. Madam Speaker, can we expect a formal apology from the HNP for misleading and deceiving the House? |
| Date | 22:02:42, February 21, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the HNP Cabinet Proposal of August 2897 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, the CLP will not recieve an apology from the HNP. The HNP does support the current political system but we believe that an elected head-of-state would be a better political system of democracy. As for the CLP well, where shall we start Madam Speaker. This the party that is willing to enter into a coalition with the NSP and URR yet they say, "though I disagree greatly with the NSP and the URR and, dare I say it, even the nationalists" The CLP Madam Speaker, is the party which is currently misleading and decieving the House! So.. can we expect an apology from them? |
| Date | 22:28:00, February 21, 2010 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the HNP Cabinet Proposal of August 2897 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, we have always been open about our disagreement with the NSP and the URR, and the fact that we oppose each other mainly on economic issues, and on some social issues. Madam Speaker, these acknowledgements could be found in numerous different places, especially in Cabinet proposals. However, what we have in common with parties such as the URR and the NSP is a great and profound belief in the way that government should 'rule' over the people. We should not seek to divide people, intrude in their private lives and deprive them of civil liberties. Rather, they should be allowed to live their lives to a certain extent completely free from government intrusion and without fear of the government storming their private dwellings. Madam Speaker, this is quite basic stuff. Let me just repeat what the gentleman just said: "The HNP does support the current political system but we believe that an elected head-of-state would be a better political system of democracy." Madam Speaker, we must applaud the gentleman for attempting to make two opposites fit together in perfect harmony but it just will not wash with the public. Madam Speaker, the HNP are lightweights in a field of political heavyweights. |
| Date | 22:35:36, February 21, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the HNP Cabinet Proposal of August 2897 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, shall i describe what a political heavyweight nowadays is? It is a party that in the first election it stands in becomes the largest party! The CLP are a highly influential party but even they must concede that the HNP is far from a political lightweight!!! If the CLP are willing to enter into coalitions with parties they have such major ideological differences then why do they not offer the HNP positions in their government? |
| Date | 22:41:41, February 21, 2010 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the HNP Cabinet Proposal of August 2897 |
| Message | Because, Madam Speaker, the HNP seek to govern this country through the politics of fear and division. Their intents are not wholly benign Madam Speaker, as are the intentions of the other parties. They are based upon fascism and nationalism which do nothing more than create a squalid country devoid of self-esteem or dignity. Madam Speaker, we could never govern alongside a party that seeks to establish fascism in Hutori. Madam Speaker, for as long as the HNP flip-flop around on issues, they shall remain a lightweight party, no matter how many seats they win. |
| Date | 23:14:08, February 21, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the HNP Cabinet Proposal of August 2897 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, the HNP after their betrayal by the NSP will no longer make any changes to our policies. But we reject that we will run Hutori through fear and division. We will put forward our proposals and if the people support them then the CLP cannot object! |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 91 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 262 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 38 |
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