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Bill: PPUN/PPNU. Military or National Service Act - 2898
Details
Submitted by[?]: Partido Popular de Unidad Nacional
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2899
Description[?]:
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: There shall be no mandatory military or civilian national service.
Current: There shall be no mandatory military or civilian national service.
Proposed: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:48:31, February 23, 2010 CET | From |  Partido Popular de Unidad Nacional | To | Debating the PPUN/PPNU. Military or National Service Act - 2898 |
| Message | It is most important that Childeren, developing into adults, have respect and strong support for the nation and the people. |
| Date | 19:14:29, February 23, 2010 CET | From | Imperial East Terra Company | To | Debating the PPUN/PPNU. Military or National Service Act - 2898 |
| Message | This would require a larger contribution to Defence which the nation cannot afford without cutting other vital departments. |
| Date | 20:17:52, February 23, 2010 CET | From | Partido Popular de Unidad Nacional | To | Debating the PPUN/PPNU. Military or National Service Act - 2898 |
| Message | Civilian national service isn't necessarily military related. And anyway, there are other non-essential laws that are currently in place in this nation. |
| Date | 22:04:05, February 23, 2010 CET | From | Royalist Party | To | Debating the PPUN/PPNU. Military or National Service Act - 2898 |
| Message | This system is basically indentured servitude, wherein the citizen is born with a debt to the state, that must be paid off at reaching maturity. And how does forcing one to serve the state build respect or support to the state? Conscription could weaken the military by filling it with unwilling, unprofessional soldiers who may flee or defect given the chance. Mandatory National Service is merely the state trying to make up for its own inabilities to provide for the people through forced labor that pays a paltry sum so as to prevent it from being called slavery. Military and civilian service should be a thing of pride undertaken by citizens to better their nation and aid their people, not a necessary evil for the majority. |
| Date | 01:10:09, February 24, 2010 CET | From | Free Movement of Gaduridos | To | Debating the PPUN/PPNU. Military or National Service Act - 2898 |
| Message | We feel a free people can not be forced into something like this, with the exception of prehaps a national crises, we will therefore vote no |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 65 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 10 |
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