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Bill: State Church Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Action Française
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2137
Description[?]:
| The Kanjoran Orthodox Church |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.
Old value:: The government has no policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.
Current: Foreign missionaries are not permitted to enter the nation.
Proposed: The government selectively screens which religions are permitted to send missionaries to the nation. Certain religions are approved and travel is unregulated.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change
Taxation of religious institutions.
Old value:: No religions are taxed.
Current: All religious income, despite the use, is taxed.
Proposed: Recognized religions are not taxed.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Current: Any form of religion is banned.
Proposed: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:56:36, November 02, 2005 CET | From | Malfico Progressive Fascist Party | To | Debating the State Church Bill |
| Message | State should not be involbed in matters of religion. We shall oppose this bill. |
| Date | 16:25:22, November 02, 2005 CET | From | Action Française | To | Debating the State Church Bill |
| Message | Why shouldn't it be involved? It is of great concern to the Emperor and the Emperor is the state. |
| Date | 16:27:29, November 02, 2005 CET | From | Malfico Progressive Fascist Party | To | Debating the State Church Bill |
| Message | Once state and religion have ties there is a two way influence. Religous concerns should never influence affairs of state, and the state should not support the brain washing of citizens. If the Emporer is so concerend with religion then the debate should really be about his suitibility to rule Kanjor. |
| Date | 16:48:32, November 02, 2005 CET | From | Action Française | To | Debating the State Church Bill |
| Message | Nonsense, religious matters and state matters cross all the time. Areas such as charity, providing for the poor and needy, building international elations, these are but three of the shared areas. Most people have some system of beliefs that affect their views and actions, you can't possibly hope to eliminate these from the affairs of state. and how dare you question the Emperor, we are very concerned about the MPFP's patriotism. |
| Date | 20:39:19, November 02, 2005 CET | From | Malfico Progressive Fascist Party | To | Debating the State Church Bill |
| Message | Athough we have promised not to attack the monarchy through legislation we will criticise it when required to do so. I would like to point out that such attacks on our patriotism are rather foolish as without our support the monarchy could easily fall, and would have done after the last election. |
| Date | 22:48:44, November 02, 2005 CET | From | Action Française | To | Debating the State Church Bill |
| Message | The Emperor is the Empire, to be disloyal to the Empire is treason. |
| Date | 12:28:43, November 03, 2005 CET | From | Malfico Progressive Fascist Party | To | Debating the State Church Bill |
| Message | I see, well then, we proudly commit treason for Kanjor |
| Date | 17:50:09, November 03, 2005 CET | From | Action Française | To | Debating the State Church Bill |
| Message | you can nay commit treason for, only against |
| Date | 19:54:22, November 03, 2005 CET | From | Malfico Progressive Fascist Party | To | Debating the State Church Bill |
| Message | We are becoming increasingly displeased with the accusations your party is throwing at our noble leadership. Either apologise or face the consequences. |
| Date | 23:07:41, November 03, 2005 CET | From | Kanjoran Socialist Party | To | Debating the State Church Bill |
| Message | I do think that Government should become involved in religious matters. Doesn't it affect the lives of citizens? This also helps the country by taxing those 'religions' that arn't recognized as such. There is a comment that this would be brainwashing citizens. It would create a state religion, but membership would be voluntary. |
| Date | 10:42:48, November 04, 2005 CET | From | Action Française | To | Debating the State Church Bill |
| Message | We are not entirely sure what we have to apologise for. We feel that patriotism and royalism are intertwined, to oppose one is to oppose the other, in our opinion. However we would like to point out that we never actually called the MPFP leadership traitors, and we greatly appreciate your contribution to the strengthening of our nation, for which we are eternally grateful. |
| Date | 19:50:20, November 04, 2005 CET | From | Malfico Progressive Fascist Party | To | Debating the State Church Bill |
| Message | You didnt call us traitors directly, but it was inferred. |
| Date | 13:03:02, November 05, 2005 CET | From | Action Française | To | Debating the State Church Bill |
| Message | ah, then we feel regret for making that inferrence, we did not mean to accuse the MPFP of behaving as badly as the Centrists or Socialists. |
| Date | 18:18:49, November 05, 2005 CET | From | Kanjoran Imperial Party | To | Debating the State Church Bill |
| Message | well at least that dispute is over. I think it is important for us three to treat each other with respect and trust because what is good for one of us if probably good for the rest. Also, to the NA, if you criticize the MPFP for going against the emperor, there will soon be no emperor left to defend... |
| Date | 18:56:26, November 05, 2005 CET | From | Action Française | To | Debating the State Church Bill |
| Message | Have you seen their new Constitutional Bill? There will be no Emperor to defend if they have their way. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 160 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 325 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 114 |
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