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Bill: Advertising Regulations
Details
Submitted by[?]: Alliance 44
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2136
Description[?]:
| Advertising should be regulated to protect our children. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy on advertising
Old value:: All advertising is permitted.
Current: Only advertising that meets certain set standards is permitted.
Proposed: Only advertising that meets certain set standards is permitted.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 05:01:09, November 03, 2005 CET | From |  Liberal Democratic Party | To | Debating the Advertising Regulations |
| Message | It's the parent's right to protect their children to whatever degree they wish. |
| Date | 10:16:00, November 03, 2005 CET | From | Primus Inter Pares | To | Debating the Advertising Regulations |
| Message | Indeed I agree with LDP |
| Date | 13:08:14, November 03, 2005 CET | From | Alliance 44 | To | Debating the Advertising Regulations |
| Message | The working classes will remember the ignorance shown by some so called 'democratic' parties when asking for protection against the capitalist propaganda. Can we tolerate this Coca-Cola government any longer? Definitely not! |
| Date | 14:43:53, November 03, 2005 CET | From | Society of Sadists | To | Debating the Advertising Regulations |
| Message | The law was like this until recently... |
| Date | 07:16:15, November 04, 2005 CET | From | One Nation Under A Rock | To | Debating the Advertising Regulations |
| Message | employing standards will weed out consumer deception |
| Date | 10:37:01, November 04, 2005 CET | From | Primus Inter Pares | To | Debating the Advertising Regulations |
| Message | And why not RPF? Advertising isn't so effective as some might think. There is too much information around us. You will easier buy a Coca-Cola when your best friend buys it and likes it then if you see one advertising by Coca-Cola. Btw the advertisings campaigns of Coca-Cola are the greatest ones. I very much like those advertisings, they are well-formed and entertaining. I want to add that any advertising that is not toleratable like ads with sexual content, aggresive content are forbidden by other laws like the laws of showing sexual content. So no need to set additional standards. If someone can give me an example that isn't coverd by another law I may decide to vote in favour of this proposal but for the moment I don't see the need. |
| Date | 10:40:31, November 04, 2005 CET | From | Primus Inter Pares | To | Debating the Advertising Regulations |
| Message | Another thing I want to add is that RPF has a strange view on the matter. Are working classes worser parents? KP thinks a parent who works in a factory can take the same decisions to protect there children then people who went to college, sometimes even better so I don't see the link with the working class. Btw the society which is divided into classes is disappeared. If the representative of the union drives a better car then the HR manager ... |
| Date | 11:13:03, November 04, 2005 CET | From | Alliance 44 | To | Debating the Advertising Regulations |
| Message | "If someone can give me an example that isn't coverd by another law I may decide to vote in favour of this proposal but for the moment I don't see the need." Rogers, M. & Smith, K. H., Public perception of subliminal advertising: Why practitioners shouldn`t ignore this issue, Journal of Advertising Research, 33, 10, 1993 I will not answer the hypocritical demagogy about the cars of the trade union representatives, though. |
| Date | 11:22:38, November 04, 2005 CET | From | Alliance 44 | To | Debating the Advertising Regulations |
| Message | and as ONUR has already pointed out regulating ads will mean a protection against consumer detection, and it is also not included in any other laws. Ads should be the means of informing the consumer and giving him/her the chance to make his choise between different wares and not to put a mental pressure on him/her with the sole purpose of improving sales stats of some corporation. eg. Ads that claim the advertised product is 'green' while being seriously hazardous to the environment, or just think about the ads of 'light' cigarettes claiming that they are less hazardous to your health than others. This proposal is not about obscenity or questioning the parents abilities to decide what is good or wrong for their children, but about the protection of the consumer. |
| Date | 11:26:20, November 04, 2005 CET | From | Alliance 44 | To | Debating the Advertising Regulations |
| Message | we do simply appeal to the common sense ;) of you all |
| Date | 13:20:20, November 04, 2005 CET | From | Jesters & Jugglers Party | To | Debating the Advertising Regulations |
| Message | there are already laws that prevent advertisers from lying : The government's policy regarding regulation of media content. There are laws against the publication of false information and hate speech. and as kp pointed out already are also laws against sexual acts so i don't think there is need for regulation |
| Date | 16:03:34, November 04, 2005 CET | From | Society of Sadists | To | Debating the Advertising Regulations |
| Message | I hear KP's argument and fully support their stance on the "divisions of class" being increasingly irrelevant in the modern world. It is only really parties of the left who bring up these notions nowadays, feeling the need to whip up support for themselves. People whose grandparents were miners and parents were factory workers are just as likely to own iPods and go to college now as anyone else. It is called a meritocratic society. My party supports this bill though in keeping with our general regulatory policy. The courts may find it easier to prosecute bad advertising with explicit regulations such as these in place. By the way: "subliminal messages" are a myth. |
| Date | 19:45:17, November 04, 2005 CET | From | Alliance 44 | To | Debating the Advertising Regulations |
| Message | yeah, the case of new orleans absolutely justify my honorouble friends 'vision' of the existence of a so called meritocratic society without social classes, as well as the recent news about the civil disorder in Paris and other French cities. It is existent though only in the minds of well-educated middle class whitecollars who feel it more convenient to simply deny social differences rather than to face problems deriving from it. Brought up as the inheritors of the burgeois consumer society these people fail to understand that those few unquestionable counterexamples of some ambitious individuals who are jumping over the widening social gap do not deny but rather emphasize the huge differences between the _opportunities_ available to children of different social backgrounds. a true meritocracy would not equally honour those who reached the same social status with little effort by simply being born into a family of higher social standing and the one who reached the same very much against the odds. Libertarians fall into the same trap as early marxist political philosophers who believed in the truth of their own ideas so strong that they failed to see the very obvious reality of peoples life and needs. Setting up some basic regulations to limit the propaganda industry of the consumer society is therefore considered as an attack on their almost religious beliefs of the magic of deregulated markets, and program that is slowly pushing the modern societies into a moral, economic and social decay. We are very disappointed to see that KP and CS are so stubbornly refusing such an important proposal. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 44 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 47 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 9 |
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