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Bill: Free Kingdom of Hutori

Details

Submitted by[?]: Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM)

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: February 2910

Description[?]:

This Act will reform the governance of Hutori, which shall be renamed "Free Kingdom of Hutori".

The Head of State shall be occupied by a National Council, comprising of the hereditary monarchy, the appointed Speaker of the House of Parliament and an elected individual. The duties of the National Council shall be to represent the whole nation, and oversee the activity of the government. The merit of the plural head of state is that there shall be an impartial individual representing the interests of the nation as a whole, an individual chosen by the House of Parliament and able to reflect the interests of all Members of Parliament, and an individual elected by the whole people, representing the majority opinion.

Ordinary governance of the nation shall remain with the Cabinet and the Prime Minister.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date15:45:24, March 17, 2010 CET
FromConservative-Libertarian Party (UM)
ToDebating the Free Kingdom of Hutori
MessageHon Douglas Carter MP, Leader of the CLP:

Mr Speaker, I am delighted to rise in this House today for the first time as leader of the CLP. I shall not deny that I wish it were in better circumstances, but I believe the task of the CLP is now to ensure that the people of this country are guarded against the disastrous policies of the HNP. Mr Speaker, I give this solemn pledge that there shall be nothing but a commitment to liberty and freedom by the CLP.

Mr Speaker, I have decided to introduce this as my first bill to Parliament, because the situation needs resolving. As I have previously said, we could block all attempts at a republic should we desire to, owing to the CLP-NSP occupancy of over a third of the seats of this Parliament.

Mr Speaker, I think I speak for all of my colleagues in the CLP when I say that reluctance to have an elected Head of State has always been based on the grounds that it opens the way to dictatorship. My colleagues have also favoured continuity down the generations. Mr Speaker, the best of both worlds shall be achieved with this bill. We have both change and continuity, conservatism and progress. Mr Speaker, the formation of a National Council will ensure that the views and interests of the nation, this Parliament and the people are all represented, and I urge this House to vote in its favour. Let us put this matter to a rest.

Date16:13:46, March 17, 2010 CET
FromHutorian Conservative Party
ToDebating the Free Kingdom of Hutori
MessageSamuel Haskins MP, HNP Deputy Leader,

Mr Speaker, the HNP are prepared to accept this comprimise on the Head-Of-State. We find that this will aloow us to keep our Nations herigate in the form of the Monarch combined with an elected national representative.

We echo the call of the CLP for other parties to resolve this long dragged out tirade and support this Act

Date19:45:46, March 17, 2010 CET
FromCabal of Entrenched Plutocrats
ToDebating the Free Kingdom of Hutori
MessageMr Speaker,
We vehemently oppose this bill on the following grounds:

1. The monarchy is retained in its entirety. This act merely supplements this defunct institution with variable and therefore weaker components. Remember that the "National Council" will be identified with its longest lasting member--the Monarch--and his authority and prestige will outweigh the others' by leaps and bounds. This act cannot create an elective Head of State because its most prominent member is unelected. In effect, we would only create a new "Royal Council" comprised of the esteemed Monarch and two less remarkable subjects.

2. The union of the Legislative and Executive branches of government is constitutionally unsound. The Speaker of the House cannot be both unbiased moderator of Parliament and the representative of the nation. In addition, there would be a clash of interests between the elected First Tribune, who is decidedly partisan, and the unelected Monarch, who is allegedly non-partisan. How could the Council reach any decisions when one of its members has a clear agenda while the others do not?

3. For the parties that cherish Republicanism: this is no way to achieve our goals. Agreeing to this "compromise" will not remove hereditary power, it will not establish a commonwealth, it will not end the Kingdom. Somehow going from "Most Excellent and Serene" to "Free" Kingdom is supposed to make the hateful term "Kingdom" any less despicable. We can wait this one out. The obstinate CLP and NSP will eventually loose their 1/3, as they did in the previous session. Do not succumb to flattery: this is no compromise, it is the deep entrenchment of an archaic and moribund institution, the shrouding of inequality in deceptive garb.

Date21:36:52, March 17, 2010 CET
FromHutorian Conservative Party
ToDebating the Free Kingdom of Hutori
MessageSamuel Haskins MP, HNP Deputy Leader :

Mr Speaker, the honorable gentleman is not incorrect in his points, however we feel that he should change his vote to support this Act. We too Mr Speaker, feel that this Act does not satisfy our demands on a republic but it is a step in the right direction where the monarchy is being eased out of power.

Mr Speaker, this Act is not a resolution.....but a stepping stone!

Date11:59:47, March 18, 2010 CET
FromConservative-Libertarian Party (UM)
ToDebating the Free Kingdom of Hutori
MessageMr Speaker, we disagree wholeheartedly, and not surprisingly, with the points made by the honourable gentleman from the CEP.

1. The argument that the hereditary member will be the most powerful is not correct at all. Indeed, Mr Speaker, there is an argument to be made that the elected member will be the most powerful and influential given that he has the largest mandate.

2. Already there is union between the executive and the legislature. The Cabinet will remain the primary governing force of Hutori, along with the Head of Government. That is the real executive and there has always been, and there always will be union of the executive and legislature. As for the role of the Speaker, his inclusion in the National Council will ensure that the views of Parliament are represented in the Council. Mr Speaker, the CEP obviously do not realise that your role is no longer non-partisan, something that this party regrets, but that is the case.

3. Mr Speaker, given that the monarchy has very little power anyway, it is hardly removing hereditary power. However, given that we have indicated that power will lie with the Cabinet rather than the National Council, it is on false pretences that the honourable gentleman argues that we will still be governed by monarchy. It is not so. The monarchy will remain, as it now is, a ceremonial institution that serves to advise and be consulted by the Prime Minister. I am sure that, the current Prime Minister, like previous ones, will attest to the fact that the King can provide very sound advice indeed.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
     

Total Seats: 295

no
 

Total Seats: 74

abstain
 

Total Seats: 22


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