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Bill: Liberalismality
Details
Submitted by[?]: Rerum Novarum Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2910
Description[?]:
| See below |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards alcoholic beverages.
Old value:: Alcoholic beverages are regulated by local governments.
Current: Alcoholic beverage regulations are not imposed by the government.
Proposed: The sale and consumption of alcoholic beverages is outlawed.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The right to kill animals.
Old value:: Killing animals is legal but regulated.
Current: Killing animals is legal and unregulated.
Proposed: Killing animals is illegal.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of chemical and biological weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weaponry in warfare.
Current: The nation reserves the right to use chemical or biological weapons in warfare for any reason.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to use chemical or biological weapons in warfare for any reason.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Weapon concealment.
Old value:: Any legal weapon may be concealed when carried.
Current: Where weapons are carried, this must be done openly.
Proposed: Where weapons are carried, this must be done openly.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The nation's defence industry.
Old value:: Defence industries are privately owned and not subsidised.
Current: Defence industries are privately owned and not subsidised.
Proposed: The state owns all defence industries.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change Firefighting services.
Old value:: Fire prevention and management is left to the local governments.
Current: The government competitively subcontracts firefighting services.
Proposed: There is a national fire department, funded by the government.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change Licensing of food sales.
Old value:: Anyone may sell food, but shelf lives of foods are enforced.
Current: The sale of food is unregulated.
Proposed: Food may be sold by licensed vendors only.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change Government-issued identity card policy.
Old value:: All citizens are issued with identity cards but are not required to carry them.
Current: All citizens are issued with identity cards and are required to carry them at all times.
Proposed: All citizens are issued with identity cards and are required to carry them at all times.
Article 9
Proposal[?] to change The legality of interracial sex.
Old value:: Interracial sex is legal.
Current: Interracial sex is legal.
Proposed: Interracial sex is completely illegal.
Article 10
Proposal[?] to change The government's stance on a salary cap.
Old value:: The government has no stance on a salary cap.
Current: The government has no stance on a salary cap.
Proposed: There is a national maximum wage but local governments may enforce stricter salary caps.
Article 11
Proposal[?] to change The use of cannabis for medicinal purposes.
Old value:: Cannabis is legal as a sedative for patients in pain.
Current: The medicinal use of cannabis is illegal.
Proposed: The medicinal use of cannabis is illegal.
Article 12
Proposal[?] to change Government regulation of the viewing of movies.
Old value:: The viewing of movies is not regulated by the government.
Current: Only government approved movies are allowed to be viewed.
Proposed: The viewing of movies is illegal.
Article 13
Proposal[?] to change The use of torture for obtaining information.
Old value:: Torture is never allowed.
Current: It is at the discretion of the police officer to torture suspects for information.
Proposed: It is at the discretion of the police officer to torture suspects for information.
Article 14
Proposal[?] to change
Taxation of religious institutions.
Old value:: No religions are taxed.
Current: Recognized religions are not taxed.
Proposed: All religious income, despite the use, is taxed.
Article 15
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Any religion may set up a school, with no regulations.
Current: Only recognised religions may set up religious schools, with no regulations.
Proposed: Religious schools are not allowed.
Article 16
Proposal[?] to change Policy concerning racial segregation in educational institutions.
Old value:: Segregation is illegal in all educational institutions.
Current: Segregation is illegal in all educational institutions.
Proposed: All educational institutions must be segregated.
Article 17
Proposal[?] to change Application of libel and slander laws.
Old value:: Libel and slander laws apply to and may be applied by all individuals.
Current: Libel and slander laws apply to and may be applied by all individuals.
Proposed: Private individuals are exempt from libel and slander suits by public figures.
Article 18
Proposal[?] to change The government policy regarding housing.
Old value:: Housing policy is to be determined by local governments.
Current: All housing is privately-owned.
Proposed: The state owns and maintains all housing.
Article 19
Proposal[?] to change Travel by foreigners to the nation.
Old value:: The nation imposes minimal border controls on visitors, with cursory security checks, to confirm visitor identities.
Current: The nation imposes minimal border controls on visitors, with cursory security checks, to confirm visitor identities.
Proposed: The nation imposes oppressive border control on visitors, with invasive and harassing levels of security checks to discourage visiting the nation.
Article 20
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding the keeping of wild animals as pets.
Old value:: This matter is left up to the local governments.
Current: The government maintains a list of dangerous wild animals which may not be kept as pets; other wild animals may be kept as pets.
Proposed: The ownership of wild animals as pets is banned.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:30:43, March 17, 2010 CET | From | Narik Nationalestik Parti | To | Debating the Liberalismality |
| Message | No no no no. Alcohol and cannabis should be legal. The government has nothing to do with what their people put in their bodies. |
| Date | 20:49:43, March 17, 2010 CET | From | Christian Party | To | Debating the Liberalismality |
| Message | Oppose article two, but support the rest. |
| Date | 21:13:37, March 17, 2010 CET | From | The Liberal Intellectualism Front | To | Debating the Liberalismality |
| Message | Article 1, no. There are quite a few government failures that would result in ID cards and while good in theory, in practice it would be tedious. For example, the amount of personal information an ID card possesses could be potentially crippling if someone else got their hands on it. It would increase identity frauds and theft. Article 2. Agree. Article 3. No. The market provides a natural mechanism to allow for equilibrium of demand of weapons and supply of weapons - and hence the optimum price. I agree that the Government should own national defense industries as that is essentially a necessity in economics (defense is a public good) but private industries MUST run alongside the Government ones to ensure allocative efficiency and to prevent government failures from occuring. Article 4 would be almost impossible to implement and control and would have to be phased in to be remotely effective. As long as people enjoy the consumption of alcohol there will be a market for it. This is a market that will be huge in comparison to say, a black market for illegal substances, which are already hard to enforce. Enforcement of such a huge market would be almost impossible and would be very, very expensive to implement. Alcohol duties are also an important source of income for the Government. Article 5. Agree but shelf lives of food should also be enforced, otherwise half the benefits of having licensed vendors is eliminated. Article 6. The medicinal use of cannabis is important because cannabis is often widely avaliable and hence cheap. Alternatives are usually just as bad from a side-affect perspective and often more expensive too. Article 7. Salaries are incentives for higher productivity among other things. Few will choose to work hard unless there is some benefit involved (i.e a promotion or better pay) and a wage cap could be detrimental to this. Wages are paid because the market mechanism chooses to pay such wages. Simply put, the majority of those with very high wages have earnt such wages and the market would not pay them if they didn't. Furthermore there are loopholes to caps too such as simply paying substantially higher bonuses to the employee. The only argument for salary caps are usually to do with unequal income distribution, but balancing income distribution can be better done through other methods such as income tax. |
| Date | 16:34:04, March 18, 2010 CET | From | Christian Party | To | Debating the Liberalismality |
| Message | With the added articles, oppose. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | |||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 181 | |||||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 29 |
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