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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of December 2910
Details
Submitted by[?]: Socialist Alliance
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2911
Description[?]:
| Proposing a Cabinet |
Proposals
Article 1
As per the Constitution, the Llywydd (President) chairs the cabinet.
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Communist Party of Aloria
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Communist Party of Aloria
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the New Aloria Party (NAP)
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Socialist Alliance
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Democratic Party of Aloria
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the New Aloria Party (NAP)
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Democratic Party of Aloria
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Democratic Party of Aloria
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Genuine Progress Alliance
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Socialist Alliance
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Genuine Progress Alliance
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the New Aloria Party (NAP)
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:00:24, March 20, 2010 CET | From | Socialist Alliance | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 2910 |
| Message | It's the same as the last one. Just hopefully this one won't glitch |
| Date | 16:01:11, March 20, 2010 CET | From | Socialist Alliance | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 2910 |
| Message | Wait i think i might have worked out why it didn't work. The UAP is in the cabinet and isn't voting for it! The HOG is UAP! |
| Date | 16:01:32, March 20, 2010 CET | From | Democratic Party of Aloria | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 2910 |
| Message | i did send to a mod but njust incase ill vote yes |
| Date | 16:02:09, March 20, 2010 CET | From | Democratic Party of Aloria | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 2910 |
| Message | the UAP wasent in cabinet proposal |
| Date | 16:02:26, March 20, 2010 CET | From | Democratic Party of Aloria | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 2910 |
| Message | and i had all spots before this |
| Date | 16:06:02, March 20, 2010 CET | From | Socialist Alliance | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 2910 |
| Message | Yes but you were President then! The UAP is President now so is in the proposal! |
| Date | 17:09:26, March 20, 2010 CET | From | Genuine Progress Alliance | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 2910 |
| Message | I think the SA makes a really valid point. I think all of us got used to the system wherein a Prime Minister or any other official separate from the President chairs the Cabinet, thus making political "coups" possible. In the current system, the President (who is currently under the UAP) is also officially part of the Cabinet as its Head of Government, and so any vote for a cabinet proposal will always require for the vote of the party that chairs the Cabinet, in this case the UAP, and it wouldn't matter if no other position was offered to the UAP since the UAP still heads the Cabinet. |
| Date | 17:18:48, March 20, 2010 CET | From | Democratic Party of Aloria | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 2910 |
| Message | i see so in order for this to work either the UAp cant be president or we need seperate HoG |
| Date | 17:19:57, March 20, 2010 CET | From | Democratic Party of Aloria | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 2910 |
| Message | unless UAP votes yes we cant pass it |
| Date | 17:25:47, March 20, 2010 CET | From | Democratic Party of Aloria | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 2910 |
| Message | I am going to propose the seperation of HoS and HoG. Its time this is changed |
| Date | 17:28:26, March 20, 2010 CET | From | Genuine Progress Alliance | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 2910 |
| Message | Or we could have an early election, which would most likely elect someone from another party to the Presidency. I have to say that I'm a bit hesitant to separate the HoS and the HoG because I think this system is more practical in real-life. |
| Date | 18:33:34, March 20, 2010 CET | From | Communist Party of Aloria | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 2910 |
| Message | Let's separate it, until recently, thats how Aloria has always been. |
| Date | 19:48:17, March 20, 2010 CET | From | New Aloria Party (NAP) | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 2910 |
| Message | The people's party supports seprating the HOS and HOG |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 235 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 65 |
| Random fact: Head to the "Language assistance" thread to receive and offer help with translations: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6368 |
| Random quote: "Religion, like capitalism, will perish in the end. We estimate the complete Terra-wide extinction of Hosianism as a religious belief by the year 4409, and in Dorvik by 4398." - Friedrich Pfeiffer, former Dorvish politician |