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Bill: The Pacifists Fight Back
Details
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2137
Description[?]:
| No weapons at all. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The nation's defence industry.
Old value:: The state owns national defence industries but these exist alongside privately owned defence industries.
Current: The state owns national defence industries but these exist alongside privately owned defence industries.
Proposed: Defence industries are banned.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Ownership of guns by private individuals.
Old value:: Adult individuals are allowed to own and purchase guns freely.
Current: Adult individuals may own guns under strict license conditions.
Proposed: Individuals are not permitted to own firearms under any circumstances.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of nuclear weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in warfare for any reason.
Current: The nation shall never use nuclear weapons in warfare.
Proposed: The nation shall never use nuclear weapons in warfare.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The policy with respect to nuclear weaponry.
Old value:: The nation reserves the right to develop, produce and store nuclear arms.
Current: The nation shall never produce or store nuclear weaponry for military purposes. Research and development of the technology is permitted.
Proposed: The nation shall never produce or store nuclear weaponry for military purposes. Research and development of the technology is permitted.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The weapons used by police forces.
Old value:: Police officers carry standard firearms.
Current: Police officers may only carry standard firearms apart from specially trained firearms units.
Proposed: Police officers may only carry non-lethal weapons.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the export of weapons to other nations.
Old value:: The government allows all arms to be exported freely.
Current: The government must approve all arms sales on a case by case basis.
Proposed: The government does not allow arms to be exported.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 07:32:27, November 05, 2005 CET | From |  Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the The Pacifists Fight Back |
| Message | Opposed to all. |
| Date | 10:47:34, November 05, 2005 CET | From | National People's Gang | To | Debating the The Pacifists Fight Back |
| Message | Support all |
| Date | 20:36:30, November 05, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the The Pacifists Fight Back |
| Message | We can support everything except the first two articles. |
| Date | 05:22:59, November 06, 2005 CET | From | CNT/AFL | To | Debating the The Pacifists Fight Back |
| Message | Could you maybe extend your support to 2? It really makes no sense to allow defence industries when no one is allowed weapons. |
| Date | 11:06:08, November 06, 2005 CET | From | Bátory Dynastia | To | Debating the The Pacifists Fight Back |
| Message | The police and army would have weapons, they just wouldn't allow them to be privately owned by the policemen and soldiers, I think. |
| Date | 18:00:20, November 06, 2005 CET | From | Slaytanic Wehrmacht | To | Debating the The Pacifists Fight Back |
| Message | see #6: police doesn't have lethal weapons. |
| Date | 18:33:34, November 06, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the The Pacifists Fight Back |
| Message | The problem with dismantling defence industries altogether is that if invaded, we may need them. But if you can remove article 1, we might be able to vote for the rest. We would have to introduce a social defence (non-violent/guerrila defence system involving conscription for training) to compensate if the bill passes, and if so we would hope for support from the parties backing this bill. |
| Date | 04:24:31, November 07, 2005 CET | From | CNT/AFL | To | Debating the The Pacifists Fight Back |
| Message | Here goes. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 94 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 206 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Particracy has 464 player slots. |
| Random quote: "A conservative is a man who believes that nothing should be done for the first time." - Alfred E. Wiggam |