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Bill: Health Care Privatization
Details
Submitted by[?]: League of Libertarians
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2923
Description[?]:
Why do people get sick? it's because they live an unhealthy live!. Those who took benefits from Free Public Healthcare mostly those who don't care about healthy living and always have their meal on those Big M fast food chain. Besides, totally privatized healthcare would benefit the consumer because competition will motivate hospitals to innovate, making medical breakthrough, and serve good-quality healthcare with lower cost |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Health care policy.
Old value:: There is a free public health care system and a small number of private clinics, which are heavily regulated to ensure they treat their patients well and provide good care.
Current: Health care is private, but the government subsidises the cost of it for all citizens.
Proposed: Health care is entirely private.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Pharmaceutical drugs policy.
Old value:: The government subsidises the cost of pharmaceutical drugs for people on low incomes.
Current: The government supplies free pharmaceutical drugs to those on low incomes.
Proposed: The government does not subsidise the cost of pharmaceutical drugs at all.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 22:01:12, April 12, 2010 CET | From | Humanist Alliance | To | Debating the Health Care Privatization |
Message | And doom millions to bankrupcy, suffering, illness, death? No way! |
Date | 22:01:56, April 12, 2010 CET | From | Humanist Alliance | To | Debating the Health Care Privatization |
Message | Sorry, I meant, to condemn millions to bankrupcy, suffering, illness and death? No way! |
Date | 22:22:21, April 12, 2010 CET | From | Humanist Alliance | To | Debating the Health Care Privatization |
Message | 1)People don't get sick only for eating junk food. They can have accident, genetic diseases or whatever. If you want the money back, just tax tobacco, burgers or anything you think is bad for health. 2) Sometimes some treatments are not profitable for private companies and they deny it to the patients or it's too expensive and they cannot afford it. 3) I'm not against private health, which can be very useful is some cases, but it's a basical, inalienable right of any country who aspires to called itself 'developed' and 'civilized' to provide some kind of health coverage for its citizens. |
Date | 23:30:27, April 12, 2010 CET | From | League of Libertarians | To | Debating the Health Care Privatization |
Message | In Private healthcare system, Hospitals compete, they know healthcare is necessity and not a luxury, they must balance profit, price, and quality or they will losing patients. Competition also encourage innovations, and this can make hospitals unique to each other, making patients have broader, high-quality choices with relatively low price due to competition. No longer the pateints must go thorugh long waiting lists before he/she receiving treatment. About the cost, there will be private health insurance companies, it's free market after all, best hospitals will stay, and those who make poor treatments will losing customers and die. |
Date | 23:35:24, April 12, 2010 CET | From | League of Libertarians | To | Debating the Health Care Privatization |
Message | Free Market always makes things that are deemed necessity cheaper, just look all those cellphones, laptops, that was once expensive, now you can buy it for a month's ordinary worker salary And healthcare is a necessity |
Date | 23:39:10, April 12, 2010 CET | From | Humanist Alliance | To | Debating the Health Care Privatization |
Message | I think you don't understand how real life works... |
Date | 23:43:35, April 12, 2010 CET | From | Humanist Alliance | To | Debating the Health Care Privatization |
Message | Sorry, maybe it didn't sound good. I mean that it's not like buying a cellphone. |
Date | 23:48:12, April 12, 2010 CET | From | League of Libertarians | To | Debating the Health Care Privatization |
Message | well 'Buying' healthcare is just like buying necessity products, more patients means more demands for room, more demands means cheaper cost. |
Date | 00:58:18, April 13, 2010 CET | From | King's Hope Party (ACN) | To | Debating the Health Care Privatization |
Message | I am in support of this, but I don't want to loose anymore seats :/ ~Hope, The Apoligy Hope~ |
Date | 05:24:09, April 13, 2010 CET | From | Humanist Alliance | To | Debating the Health Care Privatization |
Message | The demand is usually the same (unless there's some plague or major disaster). |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||
yes | Total Seats: 89 | ||||
no |
Total Seats: 153 | ||||
abstain |
Total Seats: 59 |
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