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Bill: Act Expanding Female Freedom II
Details
Submitted by[?]: Radical Freedom Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2137
Description[?]:
| This Act will amend current legislation to include Termination of Pregnancy for the third trimester. Research has shown that sometimes in the third trimester, abortions *are* needed for various reasons. Third trimester abortions should, however, be subject to strict regulations and will only be allowed to take place for serious reasons. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the legality of abortions
Old value:: Abortion is allowed during the first and second trimesters.
Current: Abortion is allowed during the first and second trimesters.
Proposed: Abortion is allowed during the entire course of the pregnancy.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 13:23:09, November 05, 2005 CET | From | Radical Freedom Party | To | Debating the Act Expanding Female Freedom II |
| Message | Assuming that other parties will not change their votes, do the Social Democrats support this? |
| Date | 13:41:55, November 05, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Act Expanding Female Freedom II |
| Message | Against. Prematurely destroying life when far better alternatives exist is wrong, and also damaging to the economy. |
| Date | 13:50:35, November 05, 2005 CET | From | Radical Freedom Party | To | Debating the Act Expanding Female Freedom II |
| Message | Damaging for the economy? That is news to me. |
| Date | 14:43:22, November 05, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian Alcoholic Party II | To | Debating the Act Expanding Female Freedom II |
| Message | Perhaps the LIP could explain just how abortion damages the economy. |
| Date | 20:45:27, November 05, 2005 CET | From |  RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Act Expanding Female Freedom II |
| Message | The Rutania Social Democrat Party is divided on the issue, and therefore we will withhold our decision on the matter for a while. However, should this Act fail to pass, we shall propose an Act expanding abortion rights to the third trimester in case of a medical emergency or in the case of rape (under certain circumstances). |
| Date | 23:46:57, November 05, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Act Expanding Female Freedom II |
| Message | "Damaging for the economy? That is news to me." Less people = less workers = less productivity = smaller economy. Wasted money on abortion clinics = less money spent on useful, none destructive things. |
| Date | 10:30:25, November 06, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Act Expanding Female Freedom II |
| Message | More people with the same number of jobs = more unemployed = more government spending = more taxation = smaller economy. It all depends on how you look at it. ;-) |
| Date | 11:50:24, November 06, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Act Expanding Female Freedom II |
| Message | More people = more businesses will be started by those people = same result. If you're seriously suggesting that we should kill vast swathes of the nation at birth so that we dont need to provide unemployment benefit then you are seriously deranged. |
| Date | 11:52:50, November 06, 2005 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Act Expanding Female Freedom II |
| Message | Against this proposal |
| Date | 13:59:54, November 06, 2005 CET | From | Radical Freedom Party | To | Debating the Act Expanding Female Freedom II |
| Message | What the Rutania Social Democrats highlight is that the pseudo-economic reasoning about abortion can go both ways. We therefore reject this pseudo-eugenics reasoning either way, and consider what *matters* which is the health of women and the freedom to choose. OOC: A conservative pundit in the USA advocated that "[Y]ou could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down" for example http://mediamatters.org/items/200509280006 |
| Date | 16:49:08, November 06, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Act Expanding Female Freedom II |
| Message | OOC: That guy is an idiot, instead of tackling the true causes of the higher criminality rates amongst the black population of the US he abuses statistics for his own racist agenda. The true causes of the higher criminality rates amongst the blakc population of the US are poverty and, racism discrimination (the poverty is in turn also caused by discrimination and racism). |
| Date | 16:49:31, November 06, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Act Expanding Female Freedom II |
| Message | * That should've been "racism and discrimination" |
| Date | 18:28:12, November 06, 2005 CET | From | Radical Freedom Party | To | Debating the Act Expanding Female Freedom II |
| Message | OOC: I agree he is an idiot. Just to point out how with stupid reasoning, you can go anywhere. |
| Date | 00:11:12, November 07, 2005 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Act Expanding Female Freedom II |
| Message | Erm guys, saying that aborting every black baby would reduce the crime rate is logical, less people, less crimes. Aborting every white baby would do the same, crime would go down. Rates wouldnt though. |
| Date | 01:44:59, November 07, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Act Expanding Female Freedom II |
| Message | Which isn't what the speaker means at all. He's blaming crime on black children, who if we aborted, we'd all be better off. |
| Date | 21:49:40, November 07, 2005 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Act Expanding Female Freedom II |
| Message | Meh, didnt watch the video ;-) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 262 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 147 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 190 |
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