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Bill: Remaning Aran Beatha
Details
Submitted by[?]: Communist Party of Darnussia
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2926
Description[?]:
What idiot changed it to Aran Beatha? It always has been called Kozaria. Why has it been changed? In many pages on Particracy, it's still referred to as Kozaria, and the wiki calls it Kozaria, and it's always been called Kozaria. This bill proposes changing the name of Aran Beatha back to Kozaria. Remember, this bill needs a 2/3 pass. And remember, this bill is apolitical. Do not vote "no" out of spite for the Communists. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 20:38:59, April 19, 2010 CET | From | Communist Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Remaning Aran Beatha |
Message | OOC: This was meant to be called "Renaming". Sorry, it was a typo. |
Date | 21:30:43, April 19, 2010 CET | From | Narik Nationalestik Parti | To | Debating the Remaning Aran Beatha |
Message | We like the new name, so let's keep it that way. |
Date | 22:36:27, April 19, 2010 CET | From | Rerum Novarum Party | To | Debating the Remaning Aran Beatha |
Message | I was the idiot that 'Remaned" it. And really, the province was in need of some manning. |
Date | 22:51:41, April 19, 2010 CET | From | Buidheann Saorsa | To | Debating the Remaning Aran Beatha |
Message | The party that has been out of the Darnussian loop for 200 years thinks that they have the authority to lecture us on Darnussian culture? This arrogant act will not go unnoticed by the people of Darnussia, especially those in Aran Beatha. The Communist Party apparently knows nothing about the current state of Aran Beatha. Shame. |
Date | 22:53:30, April 19, 2010 CET | From | Rerum Novarum Party | To | Debating the Remaning Aran Beatha |
Message | OOC: Just so you stop using this stupid fallacy over again: What idiot made us stop burning babies for Baal? It always has been baby burning season. Why has it been changed? In many pagan cultures, there's still baby burning, and the ancient pagan texts call us to burn babies, and we've always burned babies. This bill proposes changing the official sport back to baby burning. Remember, this bill needs a 2/3 pass. And remember, this bill is apolitical. Do not vote "no" out of spite for the babies. |
Date | 14:28:58, April 20, 2010 CET | From | Communist Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Remaning Aran Beatha |
Message | Pagans dont burn babies... And why renaming it? What was the point? It has always been called Kozaria, and it seems completely pointless to call it Aran Beatha. The Communists are the oldest party here, and know more about Darnussia, Darnussian history and Darnussian culture than all of the other parties, so I think you have a cheek critising us for proposing this. |
Date | 15:20:20, April 20, 2010 CET | From | Rerum Novarum Party | To | Debating the Remaning Aran Beatha |
Message | OOC: Yes, yes they did. Specifically, the first born child would be sacrificed through burning for Ba'al so as to please him and increase the family's fertility. If you want the reasoning, I suggest you go and find the bill, it should be easy enough to find. As the Buidhinn Saorsa said, you're from a long time ago. And following the rules of the Pax Cynica, we're fully within our rights to do what we have done. However, I don't know why we're foolish enough to do so, everyone knows that the CPD is special cause he's one of He-Man's Masters of the Universe since he's been here so long. |
Date | 15:30:02, April 20, 2010 CET | From | Rerum Novarum Party | To | Debating the Remaning Aran Beatha |
Message | OOC: Also, take the less than a minute to read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_fallacy When you're going to argue that we should change things back "it was always this way" is a crappy argument. Next time give actual reasons. |
Date | 17:41:30, April 20, 2010 CET | From | Communist Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Remaning Aran Beatha |
Message | I've read the bill where Aran Beatha was renamed. It is, frankly, a pathetic arguement. You can't rename province because to that. Kozaria is called Kozaria, and the left of this nation will continue to call it Kozaria. Oppression by religious groups will not let the Kozarians lose their identity. Free Kozaria! |
Date | 17:43:23, April 20, 2010 CET | From | Communist Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Remaning Aran Beatha |
Message | ...and might we add, why as the Populists voted against this motion, when they voted against renaming it in the first place? |
Date | 17:45:30, April 20, 2010 CET | From | Communist Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Remaning Aran Beatha |
Message | http://particracy.wikia.com/wiki/Kozaria <<See that? Its called Kozaria you religious maniacs. |
Date | 18:25:27, April 20, 2010 CET | From | Rerum Novarum Party | To | Debating the Remaning Aran Beatha |
Message | OOC: Through the game rules, regions are allowed to be renamed via a 2/3rds vote. That vote happened, while RP justification isn't needed, we at least had the dignity to give a minor reason. Why don't I like the name Kozaria? Because it doesn't have a nice fit to it. Unlike you, the Populists are not bound by the genetic fallacy are able to change their opinion on an issue. I'm glad that they have taken a liking to the name Aran Beatha, though they may have had apprehension to change, they ultimately are the arbiters unto themselves and are able to determine their position based on how they value the name Kozaria v. Aran Beatha, which they have done. Also, as you have pointed out, the wiki is -flawed-; it hasn't been properly maintained in a long time. Primarily because it will require a lot of work to give it the overhaul it deserves. Once again you have pulled out the genetic fallacy. Today I've done minor updating to the wiki and I'll gladly fix up a page on Aran Beatha, though for now it'll require a thin pasting of the current page, but changes can be facilitated through RP voting. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||||
yes | Total Seats: 30 | |||||
no |
Total Seats: 135 | |||||
abstain | Total Seats: 45 |
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