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Bill: Permanent court for resolving international disputes
Details
Submitted by[?]: Cooperative Commonwealth Federation
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2138
Description[?]:
| The foreign minister of Rutania has convened a conference to establish a world court. http://www.takeforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3197&mforum=particracy According to the minister: "This Court would not be trying individuals for crimes such as genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity, but for resolving disputes between States in a manner so that international peace, security and justice are not threatened." This is not an international criminal court, but one that would on request from the governments concerned be permitted to adjudicate. This bill authorizes Lodamun to tkae part in the negotiations to establish the court. Once the court is estanblished, the Assembly will have to vote again on whether to approve it. This bill also authorizes Lodamun to make an offer to host the court. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:24:47, November 05, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Permanent court for resolving international disputes |
| Message | Thoughts? Shall Lodamun offer to host? Or shall we let another country such as Keymon or Aldegar seize the honours? |
| Date | 22:47:13, November 05, 2005 CET | From | International Society of Bankers | To | Debating the Permanent court for resolving international disputes |
| Message | Never! If this is built within this nation, our militia will storm it and burn it to the ground! Long live our national sovereignty! |
| Date | 23:17:51, November 05, 2005 CET | From |  Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Permanent court for resolving international disputes |
| Message | To answer the Militia, this in no way infringes national sovereignty, it can only affect us if we request it to. May I remind you that we have already hosted such a trial? Here is a transcript of it " Bill: International Tribunal Concerning the Actions of Alan Reynolds and the Far Right Freedom Party Details Submitted by[?]: Tuesday Is Coming Status[?]: debate Votes: this is a normal bill, requiring more yes than no votes to pass. Description[?]: Alan Reynolds has been accused of committing certain crimes. The Far Right Freedom Party, of which Reynolds was a member, has been implicated as well. As the minister of Justice of the Nation of Lodamun, I will preside over these trials. The prosecution will be responsible for presenting the evidence and accusations against the defendent. Once both sides have presented their arguments and evidence, there shall be a vote of the Lodamun Parliament acting as the jury, where each party shall have one vote(ignore the seat numbers). Tuesday is Coming shall not be permitted to vote on the final decision. Dr. Thomas Narraganset Let the proceedings begin. Debate These messages have been posted to debate on this bill: Date 09:57:10, September 02, 2005 CET From Lodamun People's Coalition To Debating the International Tribunal Concerning the Actions of Alan Reynolds and the Far Right Freedom Party Message We do not feel that we should get involved in a Kanjoran internal matter. Date 13:41:00, September 02, 2005 CET From Progressive National Democratic Party To Debating the International Tribunal Concerning the Actions of Alan Reynolds and the Far Right Freedom Party Message The Progressive National Democratic Party agrees with the LPC. It has comne to our attention that Mr. Reynolds has done nothing against your nation and was the sovereign leader of Kanjor when these apparent "war-crimes" were committed. On top of all this, Mr. Reynolds was opposed from power undemocratically as pressure for foreign vested interests mounted on the coalition partners to oppose him and overthrow him. Furthermore, Mr. Reynolds' extradition from Kanjor was undemocratic. It was simply a case of the foreign minister of Telamon calling for his extradition and also the "Tuesday is Calling" party calling for Mr.Reynolds extradtion to Lodamun to face a trial in a country which has had no formal relations or grievences. Mr. Reynolds was extradited out of Kanjor without any debate or vote in the Kanjor Parliament (which I see as very undemocratic). All this time, "Tuesday is Calling" was apparently, officially representing your nation and it is with great concern that we don't see any permission granted to them to do so. Furthermore, Mr. Reynolds has been held in custody for over 3 years, without charge, trial or any contact without the outside world or his former party, colleagues and friends. He is the victim of a continued miscarriage of Justice and Telamon conspiracy against him, which has been fueled by "Tuesday is calling", acting "officially" on behalf of your nation. As friends and former colleagues of Mr. Reynolds, we immediately call on Lodamun to return Alan Reynolds to his native nation and free the innocent. We are nmot familiar with your political system. Perhaps it would be healthy for your nation to hold a vote of parliament on this issue. But we must insist that time is at the essence. On a final note, we request that (as per previous reluctant discussions on behalf of Mr. Reynolds) that it is confirmed to us that he is granted accomodation in either a 5 star: Sheraton Hotel and Resort or Hitlon and he is granted unlimited access to the hotel grounds, funded by this party. We look forward to hearing from you, Seán Molony, Leader, The Progressive National Democratic Party (PNDP), largest party, Kanjor Republic Dr. Máire De Lucas PNDP Spokesperson for Justice (Lawyer no.1 for Mr. Reynolds) Páidí Ní Brúinn PNDP Spokesperson for Foreign Affairs (Lawyer no. 2 for Mr. Reynolds) Date 16:06:03, September 02, 2005 CET From Adam Smith Party To Debating the International Tribunal Concerning the Actions of Alan Reynolds and the Far Right Freedom Party Message What is this about TiC? Has Alan Reynolds comitted some crime in our territories? Date 17:18:11, September 02, 2005 CET From Green Action: for sustainable growth To Debating the International Tribunal Concerning the Actions of Alan Reynolds and the Far Right Freedom Party Message In the debate on the recent crisis, the Greens sugegsted and TIC agreed that Lodamun might provide a neutral site for an international trial, if that was agreeable to the parties concered. The foreign minister was present for that debate, so we are surprised he is now opposing his colleague's actions. We assumed, since the minister of justice has convened the trial, that the parties had consented. If they have, we see no reason why Lodamun should not assist in this way. However it appears from the comments of Mr Reynolds defence team that the parties have perhaps not agreed, so we invite the minister of justice to clarify the matter. Date 17:28:16, September 02, 2005 CET From Green Action: for sustainable growth To Debating the International Tribunal Concerning the Actions of Alan Reynolds and the Far Right Freedom Party Message relevant discussion can be found in the comments of the Greens, TIC and the United Commonwelath Alliance in the "inquiry" dicussion at http://82.238.75.178:8085/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=15712 Date 18:42:33, September 02, 2005 CET From Tuesday Is Coming To Debating the International Tribunal Concerning the Actions of Alan Reynolds and the Far Right Freedom Party Message http://82.238.75.178:8085/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=15893 "The KPP, including Minister of Justice and President Lyman, agree to extradite Alan Reynolds. This will be done upon Kanjoran National Party's approval of a country. We trust their judgement and any nation he finds sufficient will be good enough for us. We make this announcement now because a category 5 hurricane is hurdling towards us at this very moment and we could lose power for several days." --Kanjoran People's Party "The government of Kanjor, after long deliberation with lawyers from all parties involved, has decided to extradite Alan Reynolds to the People's Federation of Lodamun to await and stand trial. Thank you, that is all for now." --Kanjoran National Party "1/ To state that we do not recognise the current government of the Kanjor Republic. We see it as an illegititmate Government as it forced a previous leader and government out during a term of office. We see it as an illegitimate government primarily because it ousted the Ministers of Econimics and of Internal Affairs, who are fine emn and had nothing to do with the recent affairs, furthermore this illegitimate government purposely excluded us from cabinet twice during this term. 2/ To state that the fate of Alan Reynolds is now out of our hands, and in the hands of the Kanjorian government. (OOC: we will roleplay the actions and speaches of Alan Reynolds when/if he is brought before a trial or released). 3/ On behalf of Alan Reynolds, if he is to be tried., we do request that he be tried in a third, neutral country or before an international convention to ensure that he has a free trial. We request that he be allowed all the legal representation he requests and also the right to call to the witness box, all the world leader and party leaders and all citizens remotely involved in this case to ensure he has all the resources necessary to defend himself. Furthermore we request that he remain a Kanjorian citizen and thus is given all necessary protection and assistance. We request that Alan Reynolds, as a Kanjorian Member of Parliament, as a Former Priem Minister of the Kanjor Reoublic, be treated with dignity. We request that he is not treated as a prisoner and will be accomodated in a 5 star Hotel (preferebly the Hitlon or the Sheraton) in the third party country and be allowed limited freedom of movement while he is the accused. If he is convicted on the international stage, he is no longer granted the protection of Kanjorian citizenship. furthermore in the event that the Kanjorian Parliament declare that the trial is currupt and unfair, then the Kanjorian Parliament has the right to vote for Alan Reynolds' return from the trial (during its trial). If these requests are not permitted, then we will not co-operate with any international investigation. Yours truly, Seán Molony, MP Leader, The Progressive National Democratic Party, Kanjor Republic." "3. "we do request that he be tried in a third, neutral country or before an international convention to ensure that he has a free trial" - The current government agrees."-Kanjoran People's Party If the government of Kanjor has changed their mind, Lodamun is of course willing to allow the trial to take place in another nation. However, it should be known that Justice Narragansett was acting upon the explicit wishes of the ruling parties of Kanjor, in a manner deemed acceptable by the PNDP. Date 18:44:15, September 02, 2005 CET From Tuesday Is Coming To Debating the International Tribunal Concerning the Actions of Alan Reynolds and the Far Right Freedom Party Message Needless to say, TiC will of course adjourn(remove the bill) this trial should Lodamun parties voice an objection. Date 20:54:42, September 02, 2005 CET From Adam Smith Party To Debating the International Tribunal Concerning the Actions of Alan Reynolds and the Far Right Freedom Party Message We have no objection to our highly respected justice system beiung made available to resolve a dispute that may well be irresolvable in the nation of origin, but only if this is an agreeable course of action to al those involved. By this we mean that all parties agree to submit to the findings of the court to be held here and that al parties agree that Lodamun is a sufficiently neutral country for justice to be done. Should any party involved object to the proceedings being held here (as opposed to object to the proceedings being held at all) then that party has an obligation to suggest an alternative venue. Any objection to the proceedings being held, regardless of location, is to be resolved by those involved before the court sessions begin. Date 21:29:46, September 02, 2005 CET From Tuesday Is Coming To Debating the International Tribunal Concerning the Actions of Alan Reynolds and the Far Right Freedom Party Message http://82.238.75.178:8085/particracy/main/viewnews.php?newsid=5844 "March 2104 Announcement from the Government of the Telamon Commonwealth This press message was released by the Government of the Telamon Commonwealth. The government of the TElamon Commonwealth is pleased to announce that following the decision of the Kanjorian authorities to extradite Alan Reynolds to the People's Federation of Lodamun to stand trial for his actions, we are reestablishing diplomatic relations with both the Kanjor and Aldurian Republics and will reopen our embassies in both those nations. We hoe to maintain a godd relationship with both nations in the future. We also thank the People's Federation of Lodamun for agreeing to host the trial. Charles Grey Foreign Minister Telamon Commonwealth Signed, the Government of the Telamon Commonwealth" Date 21:59:54, September 02, 2005 CET From Progressive National Democratic Party To Debating the International Tribunal Concerning the Actions of Alan Reynolds and the Far Right Freedom Party Message If lodamun allow this trial to go ahead, they are not worth their salt. The Telamon Commonwealth used their military destroyed a Kanjoran Typhoon class submarine killing over 112 Kanjoran sailors. This was the submarine which made the cruise missile strike of Telamon. If your nation is a neutral nation, then how come this submarine was destroyed in your waters? A total of 34 people died int he Telamon strike and this is well documented, however 112 Kanjoran sailors were murdered by the Telamon military. We feel that it should be in fact, the Telamon President or whichever official that carried out this atrosity on the Kanjoran Navy that is tried for war-crimes after an un-provoked attack on a harmless, neutral Kanjoran submarine murdering 112 Kanjoran sailors. http://82.238.75.178:8085/particracy/main/viewnews.php?newsid=5556 Again this trial is illegal, Alan Reynolds was illegally extradited from Kanjor and you are illegally holding him here without charge. It is also very undemocratic of your nation that you did not democratically vote for this Bill and yet you don't seem to have either judge or prosecuter and we will furthermore stress the illegality of this trial if TiC is made judge as he has clearly already decided the verdict. Send Reynolds home to Kanjor! ============================== Dr. Máire De Lucas Chief Counseller for the accused. Date 22:01:14, September 02, 2005 CET From Progressive National Democratic Party To Debating the International Tribunal Concerning the Actions of Alan Reynolds and the Far Right Freedom Party Message If lodamun allow this trial to go ahead, they are not worth their salt. The Telamon Commonwealth used their military destroyed a Kanjoran Typhoon class submarine killing over 112 Kanjoran sailors. This was the submarine which made the cruise missile strike of Telamon. If your nation is a neutral nation, then how come this submarine was destroyed in your waters? A total of 34 people died int he Telamon strike and this is well documented, however 112 Kanjoran sailors were murdered by the Telamon military. We feel that it should be in fact, the Telamon President or whichever official that carried out this atrosity on the Kanjoran Navy that is tried for war-crimes after an un-provoked attack on a harmless, neutral Kanjoran submarine murdering 112 Kanjoran sailors. http://82.238.75.178:8085/particracy/main/viewnews.php?newsid=5556 Again this trial is illegal, Alan Reynolds was illegally extradited from Kanjor and you are illegally holding him here without charge. It is also very undemocratic of your nation that you did not democratically vote for this Bill and yet you don't seem to have either judge or prosecuter and we will furthermore stress the illegality of this trial if TiC is made judge as he has clearly already decided the verdict. Send Reynolds home to Kanjor! ============================== Dr. Máire De Lucas Chief Counseller for the accused. Date 22:15:36, September 02, 2005 CET From Progressive National Democratic Party To Debating the International Tribunal Concerning the Actions of Alan Reynolds and the Far Right Freedom Party Message we would also like to point out that any previous discussion this nation has had, concerned Alduria and the National Socialist Party, led my Edward Gruen. You have not discussed Alan Reynolds the Far-Right Freedom Party and Kanjor, so I don't believe you are informed of the situation because if you were, you'd be shocked at the illegality of this trial. Date 22:20:16, September 02, 2005 CET From Tuesday Is Coming To Debating the International Tribunal Concerning the Actions of Alan Reynolds and the Far Right Freedom Party Message "If lodamun allow this trial to go ahead, they are not worth their salt." Not a very good way to endear yourself to the jury. However, Salt isn't one of Lodamun's chief exports. "The Telamon Commonwealth used their military destroyed a Kanjoran Typhoon class submarine killing over 112 Kanjoran sailors. This was the submarine which made the cruise missile strike of Telamon. If your nation is a neutral nation, then how come this submarine was destroyed in your waters?" I would ask, why was this submarine in our waters? There is a separate bill for this, the issue has been dealt with. "We feel that it should be in fact, the Telamon President or whichever official that carried out this atrosity on the Kanjoran Navy that is tried for war-crimes after an un-provoked attack on a harmless, neutral Kanjoran submarine murdering 112 Kanjoran sailors." This matter is different from the one at hand here. If you wish to submit it as evidence for something, please do so by the proper channels. If you wish to start a separate proceeding against the government of Telamon, this [bill] is not the time or the place to do so. "Again this trial is illegal, Alan Reynolds was illegally extradited from Kanjor and you are illegally holding him here without charge." Mr. Reynolds was extradited by the government of Kanjor. It will be up to them whether this trial proceeds. He is about to be charged. The prosecution is not going to be from Lodamun, as Lodamun is an impartial party to this matter. "It is also very undemocratic of your nation that you did not democratically vote for this Bill" This bill was agreed by consensus and presented by the duly elected Justice Minister. "and we will furthermore stress the illegality of this trial if TiC is made judge as he has clearly already decided the verdict." TiC will not be voting upon the final verdict, read the bill description. Dr. Narragansett will be presiding and will direct the flow of the trial. To this degree Dr. Lucas has already spoken out of turn. Does the government of Kanjor wish to recall Mr. Reynolds to Kanjor? Until they make such a statement that they do, I will be abiding by the last statements they made. Date 22:40:15, September 02, 2005 CET From Progressive National Democratic Party To Debating the International Tribunal Concerning the Actions of Alan Reynolds and the Far Right Freedom Party Message "If you wish to submit it as evidence for something, please do so by the proper channels" The evidence was submitted above. "Mr. Reynolds was extradited by the government of Kanjor" undemocratically, no vote was held on this matter nor was their debate. I'd have to ask wether extraditing a Member of Parliament from the largest party of Kanjor who is also a former President is legal in Kanjor, these are the illegalities of which I speak. It is for that reason that President Reynolds should be returned to Kanjor until these illegalities are upheld and he has a democratic say in parliament. "He is about to be charged." He was about to be charged three years ago! - How many more years of President Reynolds' life are you going to steal? "This bill was agreed by consensus and presented by the duly elected Justice Minister." At least one party in this nation was shocked my this discovery. Other parties in the nation seem to have no knowledge of the situation or mistake it for the Alduria situation. "TiC will not be voting upon the final verdict, read the bill description. Dr. Narragansett will be presiding and will direct the flow of the trial" Another flaw in this "tribunal" where a prosecuter has not been chosen and neither has a jury. We have not yet been able to see if a Jury is fair. I hope you are ready to swear in a jury and bve sure that they don't have any vested interests nor communicate without the outiside world or any party on the matter. "Dr. Lucas has already spoken out of turn." My name is Dr. De Lucas. "Does the government of Kanjor wish to recall Mr. Reynolds to Kanjor?" The government of Kanjor has not yet even democratically extradited President Reynolds to Lodamun, hence this being an illegal and undemocratic trial. Date 02:12:21, September 03, 2005 CET From Lodamun People's Coalition To Debating the International Tribunal Concerning the Actions of Alan Reynolds and the Far Right Freedom Party Message The PCL will support the Kanjoran view on this. Since Mr Reynolds' team has not consented to anything IN Lodamun, and he has not committed any crime in Lodamun, the PCL do not think he should, or CAN, be extradited to face any sort of charges here. Date 02:16:59, September 03, 2005 CET From Green Action: for sustainable growth To Debating the International Tribunal Concerning the Actions of Alan Reynolds and the Far Right Freedom Party Message Based on the information presented, there seems to be nothing improper in the actions of Justice Narragansett, who was acting on the advice of the government of Kanjor. Perhaps it is best that the various parties from Kanjor sort out what they want, and then inform us. Dr De Lucas may wish to direct complaints to whoever in Kanjor ordered the extradition. Date 02:25:56, September 03, 2005 CET From The Refuseniks To Debating the International Tribunal Concerning the Actions of Alan Reynolds and the Far Right Freedom Party Message While we accept Justice Narragansett was acting in good faith, we agree with the PCL. If it can be shown that Mr Reynolds was extradited without regard for due process, he should be returned, or offered transportation to a safe haven of his own choosing, and the government of Kanjor should be taken to task for involving Lodamun in the commission of a crime as defined by their domestic laws. Date 11:42:24, September 03, 2005 CET From Progressive National Democratic Party To Debating the International Tribunal Concerning the Actions of Alan Reynolds and the Far Right Freedom Party Message I must sincerely thank the righteous parties of this nation for standing up for the innocent in this terrible miscarriage of justice, in this undemocratically founded, illegal tribunal. Date 17:29:51, September 03, 2005 CET From Green Action: for sustainable growth To Debating the International Tribunal Concerning the Actions of Alan Reynolds and the Far Right Freedom Party Message who said anything of the sort? Date 19:45:01, September 03, 2005 CET From Nihilist Fascist Collegiality To Debating the International Tribunal Concerning the Actions of Alan Reynolds and the Far Right Freedom Party Message *Douglas Woods, counsel for the accused, walks into the trial room. Douglas Woods, a tall, intimidating, black haired man, wears a black suit and sets his briefcase onto the defense table.* I motion to rise, and since we've got no judge I am recognized. As we've set no jurisdiction, the defense further declares this a civil case, with all rights and responsibilities accorded thus. The defense of Alan Reynolds declares a mistrial for reasons of conflict of opinion. This is an invalid trial and should not even be recognized. Furthermore, our discussion on the topic remains as chaos, not as a trial. As the PNDP has called pro se, all defense attorneys present are represented solely as counsel to the accused. As thus, the PNDP has the right to make all binding agreements. I further declare and issue subpoena duces tecum to the prosecution team - they've produced no evidence and if they continue to fail to do so, this entire trial is tort. Lastly, to prepare my case for the defense of Alan Reynolds, I issue a writ of certiorari to the governments involved in this trial. Their records and evidence, whether circumstantial or testimony, are expected to be received either in this trial or personally. Date 20:51:42, September 04, 2005 CET From Progressive National Democratic Party To Debating the International Tribunal Concerning the Actions of Alan Reynolds and the Far Right Freedom Party Message And again, another year passes and there is no sign of a propoer trial nor prosecution or any charges being against President Reynolds. My colleague, Mr. Woods' speach seems to have been ignored by the "judge." Are we to take it that this trial has been dismissed? Because in that case, there is no reason why our client is still being held in custody with out charge. When President Reynolds was taken into custody, he was 37 years of age. He is now approaching 41. - 4 years of this mans life have been taken, and four years he has been in custody with no charges, and no contact with his family, friends and legal team. We demand his release, especially if this court is unable to respond to Mr. Woods' opening statement. ============================= Dr. Máire De Lucas, PNDP Spokesperson for Justice, largest Party, Kanjor Republic Counsel for the accused. Date 01:16:42, September 05, 2005 CET From Democratic Unionist Party To Debating the International Tribunal Concerning the Actions of Alan Reynolds and the Far Right Freedom Party Message Jim Allister QC, Legal Affairs spokesman for the DUP, seconds Dr De Lucas's motion to release the accused. Date 03:10:41, September 05, 2005 CET From Green Action: for sustainable growth To Debating the International Tribunal Concerning the Actions of Alan Reynolds and the Far Right Freedom Party Message ((how can you have a QC from a country that has no Queen?)) Date 03:24:48, September 05, 2005 CET From Democratic Unionist Party To Debating the International Tribunal Concerning the Actions of Alan Reynolds and the Far Right Freedom Party Message We're working on that particular point! Date 14:33:48, September 05, 2005 CET From Nihilist Fascist Collegiality To Debating the International Tribunal Concerning the Actions of Alan Reynolds and the Far Right Freedom Party Message As there is no response from any prosecution, the defense motions that this case be dismissed. If this case is not continued by the prosecution, Alan Reynolds is to be released within the span of six (6) months or the parties involved will face a class-action suit. Now, wouldn't that be a great way to start your country's economy. Owing several billion dollars to other people. Date 01:34:43, September 06, 2005 CET From Democratic Unionist Party To Debating the International Tribunal Concerning the Actions of Alan Reynolds and the Far Right Freedom Party Message This trial is a charade! Date 03:44:35, September 06, 2005 CET From Lodamun People's Coalition To Debating the International Tribunal Concerning the Actions of Alan Reynolds and the Far Right Freedom Party Message The PCL motions for Mr. Reynolds to be released. |
| Date | 18:07:12, November 06, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Permanent court for resolving international disputes |
| Message | Yes, to remind the militia this court would have no power unless we agreed to allow it to settle disputes. It is NOT an international criminal court, just a dispute settlement service. Can we take the Remnants comment as support for the idea? |
| Date | 20:00:29, November 06, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Permanent court for resolving international disputes |
| Message | We are leaning towards opposition at the moment. |
| Date | 17:26:16, November 07, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Permanent court for resolving international disputes |
| Message | I'm going to move this to a vote. If 50% vote yes, then we will offer to host the court and authorize a Lodamese representative to take part in negotiations for the court. If no, we drop the idea, although we can always consider signing on later. |
| Date | 17:28:44, November 07, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Permanent court for resolving international disputes |
| Message | Who is our delegate nominee? |
| Date | 17:35:20, November 07, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Permanent court for resolving international disputes |
| Message | I'm there now as foreign minister but can pass on to whoever is named as the next foreign minister. |
| Date | 17:41:39, November 07, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Permanent court for resolving international disputes |
| Message | We will abstain for now, by next February we may come to a decision. Part of our reluctance comes from having dealt with the Rutanian Social Democrats in the past, and having found them very diffcult to deal with. Considering that we have a Faithful offshoot active in the Freedom party, the Invisible Hand cult, we have a vested interest in Rutanian politics. |
| Date | 18:21:21, November 08, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Permanent court for resolving international disputes |
| Message | ooc: i don't much care one way or the other if this passes, but out of general curiosity i'm wondering if the oppositiion stems from the fact that our newest arrivals are Americans genetically programmed to hate internationalism of any kind? |
| Date | 18:31:54, November 08, 2005 CET | From | Slaytanic Wehrmacht | To | Debating the Permanent court for resolving international disputes |
| Message | ooc: I'm not an American. |
| Date | 18:57:05, November 08, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Permanent court for resolving international disputes |
| Message | oh sorry, thought you were. where are you from? (we've 2 from US, 2 from Canada, 1 from Singapore and 1 from Britain right now) |
| Date | 19:13:23, November 08, 2005 CET | From | Slaytanic Wehrmacht | To | Debating the Permanent court for resolving international disputes |
| Message | I'm from Germany |
| Date | 21:57:17, November 08, 2005 CET | From | CNT/AFL | To | Debating the Permanent court for resolving international disputes |
| Message | That's 3 from the US. |
| Date | 22:06:43, November 08, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Permanent court for resolving international disputes |
| Message | LM, myself, and CNT: US GA: Canada PCL: Singapore CS: Germany who is from britain and canada? |
| Date | 02:08:14, November 09, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Permanent court for resolving international disputes |
| Message | Ooh, evil disinformation! Is there no end to Remnant lies? ;) LM, FR: USA -- DSP must be the third CNT, GA: Canada PCL: Singapore CS: Germany Viva the Devotional Equitista Peepul of Refusenik: Britain. Used to be more British but they left. |
| Date | 02:57:16, November 09, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Permanent court for resolving international disputes |
| Message | Sorry, I thought CNT's comment was meant to add himself to the USA list. Where is the location list again? ASP and RCP were british. |
| Date | 02:57:46, November 09, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Permanent court for resolving international disputes |
| Message | Never mind, ASP was British, but he actually lived in Brazil. Silly me, I forgot. |
| Date | 21:11:49, November 09, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Permanent court for resolving international disputes |
| Message | This is now the official location list, revoking all other location lists. All rights reserved under Lodamun law, such as it is, 2138 AD. |
| Date | 21:30:24, November 09, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Permanent court for resolving international disputes |
| Message | In the Year of Our Lord? Maybe "Current Era" or "Particracy Era" or "Terra Era" or something unique would be better? |
| Date | 22:38:07, November 09, 2005 CET | From | International Society of Bankers | To | Debating the Permanent court for resolving international disputes |
| Message | I am not from the US, I am from the Republic of Texas. |
| Date | 22:55:24, November 09, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Permanent court for resolving international disputes |
| Message | :-P |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 79 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 89 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 132 |
| Random fact: Cabinet ministers who disagree seriously with the head of government would usually be expected to resign. Parties within the cabinet may attempt to manoeuvre to replace the head of government though, for example by proposing a new cabinet bill or voting for an early election. |
| Random quote: "Politics: a strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. The conduct of public affairs for private advantage." - Ambrose Bierce |