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Bill: Religion And The Public Service
Details
Submitted by[?]: Partiya Natsional'noy Gordyy
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2138
Description[?]:
| Public officials should refrain from religious symbols. Public officials must abide by that. Trigunia is a secular nation. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The state's policy concerning religious clothing.
Old value:: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Current: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Proposed: Public officials are not allowed to wear religious symbols while exercising their duties.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 03:35:37, November 07, 2005 CET | From |  Herut Orthodoxy | To | Debating the Religion And The Public Service |
| Message | We laugh at this, and would not observe it even if it passed. Freedom of religion means being able to observe your religion and this foolish law would render that impossible -- unless certain parties only want those who push the faithful idea that there is no god of any sort to hold office. How very tolerant. |
| Date | 04:37:37, November 07, 2005 CET | From | Partiya Natsional'noy Gordyy | To | Debating the Religion And The Public Service |
| Message | This isue has nothing to do of being tolerant or not but with the neutrality of the service given to our citizens. The visibility of fysical objects which represents the personal religious or political beliefs of the servant dangers that. So, it is a matter of principle. |
| Date | 00:56:22, November 08, 2005 CET | From | Herut Orthodoxy | To | Debating the Religion And The Public Service |
| Message | It has everything to do with being tolerant. Anything from headscarves, scullcaps, to a crucifix dangling around a neck could not be worn. What about tatoos? There is no such thing as 'neutrality'. If this were the case then you'd not vote the person with whom you agreed, but you'd vote for someone on a coin flip. This is a weak excuse for legislation. We all have our personal convictions, some like to help children, others like to crush religious free expression. The illusion of neutrality is the spectre anti-religious activism. This is foolish, ill-conceived, and unenforcable in a free society. This is guilt by association. This is a mockery. |
| Date | 01:10:51, November 08, 2005 CET | From | Imperialists Union | To | Debating the Religion And The Public Service |
| Message | We understand what you are saying, but will still vote against this proposal. As stated above, it is impossible to stay neutral. In every decision you make, some religion is going to be all for it and some will be against it. Imposing secularism merely discourages religion as a whole and makes people think that religion should not be a factor in government. We believe that as one's choices in government are often guided by one's principles and those principles often depend on one's religious creed, this is preposterous. While we do not believe in a state religion, we will still allow religious expression. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 33 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 522 | ||||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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