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Bill: adfs
Details
Submitted by[?]: New Independence Party (PCA)
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2938
Description[?]:
| afs |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The terms of extradition.
Old value:: The law bars the government from extraditing anyone who is a citizen of the state.
Current: Extradition to nations that practice cruel or inhumane treatment of suspects or in punishment is not allowed.
Proposed: Extradition to nations with capital punishment or with cruel or inhumane treatment of suspects and convicts is not allowed.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:53:08, May 13, 2010 CET | From | New Independence Party (PCA) | To | Debating the adfs |
| Message | Alorians should not be allowed to avoid the consequences of criminal acts abroad by coming home. While no Alorian should be subjected to cruel penalties, it is only fair that those who go abroad and sully Aloria's good name should face the consequences. We urge our fellow Congressmen to support extradition to countries that don't practice capital punishment, or inhumane treatment of suspects. |
| Date | 20:53:43, May 13, 2010 CET | From | New Independence Party (PCA) | To | Debating the adfs |
| Message | Argh. Sorry I forgot to rename it before submitting it. |
| Date | 22:37:26, May 13, 2010 CET | From | New Aloria Party (NAP) | To | Debating the adfs |
| Message | Not all countries justice systems are as fair as Alorias. |
| Date | 23:29:32, May 13, 2010 CET | From | New Independence Party (PCA) | To | Debating the adfs |
| Message | Different countries handle crime differently. But we think it important for protecting Aloria's image that we not be seen to shelter criminals here. Every time a criminal commits a crime abroad, he sullies Aloria's image. Letting him come home to evade justice where he committed that crime only makes it worse. OOC: If there was an option that let us prevent extradition to countries that don't provide meaningful due process, I'd choose that one. But it isn't available. On the other hand, countries that don't execute people or treat them inhumanely probably also have due process. Countries that treat people inhumanely probably don't. So it's a pretty good proxy. |
| Date | 00:13:13, May 14, 2010 CET | From | New Aloria Party (NAP) | To | Debating the adfs |
| Message | OOC: I've put add ons to bills, since the game does restrict some obvious choices. In RL we don't have a few opitions to chose from making laws, so I see no problem doing add ons. We need to keep track of them tho. |
| Date | 15:23:16, May 14, 2010 CET | From | NCPA | To | Debating the adfs |
| Message | thats the problem with add ons, happened to me with the child labour, for a new player its looks like child labour is allowed |
| Date | 22:31:14, May 14, 2010 CET | From | New Aloria Party (NAP) | To | Debating the adfs |
| Message | Well none of the other parties when voting for my bills have ever objected to add ons. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 369 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 246 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Real-life places should not be referenced in Particracy. |
| Random quote: "The reason there are so few female politicians is that it is too much trouble to put makeup on two faces." - Maureen Murphy |