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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of March 2137
Details
Submitted by[?]: Tuesday Is Coming
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2140
Description[?]:
| Giving it a shot: FR 5 GA 2 LM 1 CS 1 PCL 1 Devo 1 CNT 1 DSP 1 |
Proposals
Article 1
As per the Constitution, the President of the Commonwealth chairs the cabinet.
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the 
National People's Gang
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the International Society of Bankers
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Cooperative Commonwealth Federation
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Democractic Socialist Party of Lodamun
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Tuesday Is Coming
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Cooperative Commonwealth Federation
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Tuesday Is Coming
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Tuesday Is Coming
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Tuesday Is Coming
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the CNT/AFL
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Lodamun Centre-Left Coalition
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Tuesday Is Coming
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 11:13:40, November 07, 2005 CET | From | Slaytanic Wehrmacht | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2137 |
| Message | Depending on wether other parties will support this or not, we might actually accept being the HoG |
| Date | 17:17:31, November 07, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2137 |
| Message | While we appreciate Remnants support, we are unable to serve in a cabinet with any party proposing to take away rights from lesbian and gay citizens. Therefore we must regretfully the offer of two seats in this cabinet. |
| Date | 19:10:00, November 07, 2005 CET | From | International Society of Bankers | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2137 |
| Message | We will not support in order to remain HoG. |
| Date | 21:54:10, November 07, 2005 CET | From | National People's Gang | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2137 |
| Message | We do not wish to serve in this cabinet. |
| Date | 03:18:46, November 08, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2137 |
| Message | I request that another party proposes the cabinet, in that case. We prefer finance, but apprently such a department gives us control over gays and lesbians in some secretive manner. |
| Date | 18:50:48, November 08, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2137 |
| Message | Apologies, our objection has been misunderstood. So long as the Remnants are trying to take away rights from our lesbian and gay citizens, we will not take any part in any cabinet that includes tham in any way. If the Remnants are in government, and continue their campaigns of homophobia, then we will have to serve in opposition, and continue to make such deals with the Remnants as can be negotiated. This does not mean we do not appreciate Remnants support in the recent election, but equality for people of all sexual orientatations is a matter of basic principle, one of the few matters on which we are not willing to compromise. That is why we turned our back on the Remnants when they first began to propose bills based on homophobia -- we stand by our statement at that time that we cannot be in the same cabinet as them. So there's three options we can see: (1) The Remnants stop proposing the homophobic bills (2) A cabinet of Remnants plus Libertarians plus one or more other parties, in which case we go into opposition (3) A cabinet of other parties excluding the Remnants, such as we have now. |
| Date | 19:32:27, November 08, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2137 |
| Message | Our attempts to eradicate gays and lesbians have proven to be less than popular among many, thus we have moved on and are simply attempting to regulate them. Surely one who can support regulation of "evil businesses" as you have done in the past, can see the need to regulate those who practice deviant lifestyles? In any case, the President-Councillor need not worry, as she enjoys executive immunity. |
| Date | 02:25:24, November 09, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2137 |
| Message | Executive immunity? The President-Councillor has searched the extensive files passed along to her by her late predecessor and finds no record of any such status. As far as she can tell, the President-Councillor's only power is the awesome ability to cut ribbons faster than ordinary people. |
| Date | 02:48:37, November 09, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2137 |
| Message | We assumed that Lodamun, like many/most nations, gave their head of state the power to pardon criminals and excused a Head of State's minor crimes. |
| Date | 03:55:41, November 12, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2137 |
| Message | As this would produce too many empty spots, we will vote against in favor of a new one. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 33 | |||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 233 | |||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Don't put "the" as the first word in your party name, because when parties are referred to in news reports, their names are preceded with "the", e.g. the [Socialist Party] has lost. |
| Random quote: "If voting changed anything, they'd abolish it." - Ken Livingstone |