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Bill: Euthanasia
Details
Submitted by[?]: Federal Constitutionalist Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2943
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The right to euthanasia.
Old value:: Euthanasia is allowed with consent from the patient and the treating doctor.
Current: Euthanasia is illegal and considered murder.
Proposed: Euthanasia is illegal and considered murder.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:44:28, May 22, 2010 CET | From | Christian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Euthanasia |
| Message | We are in favour. |
| Date | 23:51:53, May 23, 2010 CET | From | Narik Nationalestik Parti | To | Debating the Euthanasia |
| Message | Narrow minded conservatives.. |
| Date | 02:08:26, May 25, 2010 CET | From | Libertarian Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Euthanasia |
| Message | It's not even about being narrow minded. I think they are aware of how gay and illogical their view on this is. They just have some stick stuck up their ass that is causing them to want to force people to follow certian moral guidelines. As if forcing people to follow things ever changed anyone ... |
| Date | 06:33:53, May 25, 2010 CET | From | Rerum Novarum Party | To | Debating the Euthanasia |
| Message | The idea is simple. What is a doctor's job? A doctors job is to heal the body. Now similarly, what is a fireman's job? To put out fires. Now, it is just as outlandish to go into a medical office and ask for a lethal injection as it is to walk into a fire station and ask for an axe to the head. Will both kill you? Yes; painlessly? Perhaps (though doctors are objecting to lethal objection because it hasn't shown to be 100% painless). A doctor's job is to do as much as possible to heal the body; not destroy it. Just as with a fireman, if he fails to put out a fire, he isn't called to set the rest of the city ablaze. Can a person refuse medical treatment? Yes. Is a person morally obligated to take every chance to heal the body they get? No, I would say not. Are they obligated to not kill themselves, even when they deem themselves worthless? I would say that they are. And asking someone to kill oneself? What type of action is this? Asking a healer to deal a fatal blow is nigh asinine! Am I going to prevent the downtrodden from committing suicide? I think that's near impossible; however, we hold the ability and authority to restrain members of society from killing others. This is the value which we are trying to uphold. While you may thumb your nose at those who vote in favor, legislation is a wager. While I do contend to hold a value of morality; much in the same way as you try to uphold pseudo-anarchic freedom, it should be kept in mind that there is more to play than merely morality, but freedom as well. If this legislation failed, which, deo gratias, it didn't, people would be 'free' to decide to die. However, people would also be free in pressuring others into being euthanized. And this is why the side on which I stand wins the favor of the wager, if even so much as one person dies through coerced euthanasia, one free being pressured into suicide as such, than any victories won for this 'freedom', have all been for naught and the value lost is immeasurable. However, if a person is intent on ending their existence, they are more than able to take it on themselves through any of the means that I'm sure are famous. You can sit and think yourself better or wiser; but I stand dignified knowing that if the value of a free-being is sacrificed in the name of freedom; this brand of freedom is nothing more than tyranny. |
| Date | 14:56:25, May 25, 2010 CET | From | Libertarian Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Euthanasia |
| Message | You actually made a pretty good point in the second half of your comment. The first part however, was complete BS. It is not a "doctors" job to "heal the body". It is doctors job to do whatever the hell he wants to do. If what he does is completely inefficient and undesired, then the market will deal with him in the way that he should be delt. I do not attempt to organize people under titles such as "doctor", or "fireman", these are simply terms people use to describe what any given individuals labor is considered to them. Individuals are individuals, and as far as I am concerned, may govern their entire lives however they please so long as it does not violate the life, liberty, or property of another. |
| Date | 15:36:04, May 25, 2010 CET | From | Rerum Novarum Party | To | Debating the Euthanasia |
| Message | And this is why entitlement without obligation is a failure. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 125 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 90 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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