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Bill: Parliamentary Sovereignty Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes the withdrawal from a treaty. It will require half of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2951
Description[?]:
| This Act will return sovereignty to the House of Parliament. |
Proposals
Article 1
Withdraw from the Emancimation bill.
Article 2
Withdraw from the International agreement to ban torture.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding the treatment of prisoners of war.
Old value:: Prisoners of war must be treated well, according to internationally-accepted standards.
Current: Prisoners of war must be treated well, according to internationally-accepted standards.
Proposed: Prisoners of war are treated according to the national laws of the captor power.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 10:50:01, June 08, 2010 CET | From |  Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Parliamentary Sovereignty Act |
| Message | Hon Emily Bridges MP, CLP Leader: Madam Speaker, by proposing this bill we are fully expecting the NSC to claim that we cannot be serious about preventing torture or slavery, and would support both of these. Madam Speaker, these claims will wash straight over us, and we are sure that the people know well enough that the CLP would not do any of this. I therefore hope that the NSC steers away from that sort of debate, and discusses this issue on the grounds on which we are sure even they know the CLP proposes it. Madam Speaker, the Conservative-Libertarian Party has a passionate belief in national and parliamentary sovereignty. The Hutorian people did not elect us to pass powers away and allow other people to make decisions for us. They elected us to make decisions - the powers invested in us are not ours to give away - they are the people's. Madam Speaker, there has been a tradition in this country that one Parliament should not bind another, that all decisions made should be made in this chamber. The aims of the treaties are noble ones, and ones that we can fully back. But we are confident that the Hutorian people would not allow torture and slavery to be introduced in this country. They would not elect such a House, and, if such an eventuality did occur, such a make-up would soon find itself dissolved. Madam Speaker, international institutions are not reliable. They are generally run by unelected bureaucrats who are neither accountable nor removable. Madam Speaker, regarding Article III, before the law was changed, the Hutorian policy was actually more humane towards prisoners of war than that stated by the international agency. Madam Speaker, this is a declaration that the people of this country are sovereign and that they elect their representatives to make decisions, not to pass them away. Madam Speaker, the sovereignty of the people is invested in this Parliament, which should be the sole legislative body. |
| Date | 13:27:22, June 09, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Parliamentary Sovereignty Act |
| Message | Rt Hon Baron Mancini MP, NSC Frontbencher, Madam Speaker, the CLP is trying to take Hutori back into relative isolation! We should internationally condemn the use of torture and slavery and stand up for the rights of minorities! Whilst Parliaments hands are now tied on the issues, it is irrelevant. Hutori will never introduce torture or slavery so why not sign up to international agreements? The Lady opposite is showing how her party is still stuck in the past. The days of staying within your own borders as regards condemnation of major issues is over. If Hutori truly rejects these terrible issues, then we need to show our opposition on an international stage! |
| Date | 14:34:53, June 09, 2010 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Parliamentary Sovereignty Act |
| Message | Madam Speaker, how dare the gentleman accuse this party of isolationism. Which party was it that would have cut us off from all foreign trade and withdraw us from the International Free Trade Agreement? Trade is the primary method of internationalism! Which party was it that proposed to turn Hutori into a fortress, banning people from either moving into the country or moving out of the country? Which party was it that proposed to ban foreign people from investing in our industry? Madam Speaker, there are plenty of ways of being internationalist without handing powers over to international agencies. Madam Speaker, what would the NSC say if we were to gain a majority and join treaties that would commit Hutori to constant privatisation etc.? Madam Speaker, once we start handing over some powers, it is extremely difficult to say when we should stop. |
| Date | 14:37:58, June 09, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Parliamentary Sovereignty Act |
| Message | Rt Hon Baron Mancini MP, NSC Frontbencher, Madam Speaker, seems a nerve has been touched there. The CLP have argued for god knows how long about debating the issue and then when the NSC gives its views the CLP come back with the statement above. It seems as though we shouldn't have bothered. |
| Date | 14:52:00, June 09, 2010 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Parliamentary Sovereignty Act |
| Message | Madam Speaker, now what nonsense is the gentleman displaying? Why shouldn't they have bothered? We are responding to the point that the gentleman made. He accused us of isolationism, which is fair enough, but we are perfectly entitled to respond by pointing out his party's own demonstration of isolationism? It seems that it is we who have touched a nerve. |
| Date | 14:53:22, June 09, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Parliamentary Sovereignty Act |
| Message | Madam Speaker, a nonsense by the opposite benches. We shall not drop to their level by following their political point scoring answer. |
| Date | 15:04:09, June 09, 2010 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Parliamentary Sovereignty Act |
| Message | Madam Speaker, and was there no political point scoring in their answer? "The CLP is trying to take Hutori back into relative isolation"..."The Lady opposite is showing how her party is still stuck in the past." Madam Speaker, that is political point scoring. The gentleman has admitted before that there needs to be a mix of policy debate and point scoring - of course, he only believes that when he is dishing it out rather than having it back to him. Madam Speaker, if the gentleman wants a dry debate, so be it. We therefore ask the following question: How can the NSC accuse the CLP of being isolationist when so many of their own policies would have dramatically isolated Hutori? |
| Date | 15:07:44, June 09, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Parliamentary Sovereignty Act |
| Message | Madam Speaker, because we respect Parliamentary democracy we shall ive the gentleman an answer, something the current PM doesnt understand the concept of. The NSC policies are out of its Socialist beliefs and a state-sponsored economy - thus the proposed Bill on foreign investment Madam Speaker. We have not advocated the closing of borders since our reform from the HNP to NSC. Madam Speaker, any proposals that are pecieved as isolationism have alterior socialist motives. Foremost the NSC is a socialist party and if a consquence is a little more closed off than ideal, well unfortunatley it is something we will have to get used to. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 103 | ||
| no |
Total Seats: 288 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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