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Bill: Devolved Infrastructure Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM)

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: June 2954

Description[?]:

This Act will devolve decisions over areas of infrastructure to local government.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date10:07:41, June 14, 2010 CET
From Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM)
ToDebating the Devolved Infrastructure Act
MessageHon Cheryl Macintosh MP, CLP Leader:

Madam Speaker, this is the second bill introduced by the CLP that details our commitment to a more federal Hutori. Madam Speaker, it is of course true that the CLP is new to the federalist agenda, but I was elected as leader, and the party knew full well my opinion on federalism, and the way in which my father attempted to press for a more federal Hutori.

Madam Speaker, this bill will see key areas of infrastructure devolved to the local councils of Hutori. This means, Madam Speaker, that policy will be created to best suit local people, instead of their being a 'one size fits all' policy from State Square, Bekenial. Madam Speaker, we will see a vast improvement in the quality of life and it will also see services vastly improved. Madam Speaker, the actions of this government has shown exactly why the time for federalism has come.

Date12:46:43, June 14, 2010 CET
From Hutorian Conservative Party
ToDebating the Devolved Infrastructure Act
MessageRt Hon Baron Mancini MP, NSC Frontbencher,

Madam Speaker, the NSC believes in strong central governance and state controlled infrastructure. We support no part of this Bill proposed by the CLP. Federalism is a ridiculous idea and should be stamped out. People are already benefitting from the nationalised infrastructure and when the Labour Partys proposed Socialist Reforms Bill passes then Hutori will become a much better place for all who live within it.

Date13:14:13, June 14, 2010 CET
From Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM)
ToDebating the Devolved Infrastructure Act
MessageMadam Speaker, the basis for the NSC's claim that federalism is a "ridiculous idea" is that they do not want to see state control diminished. Madam Speaker, the gentleman is so keen to have the idea of federalism "stamped out" because he knows as well as I do that the idea of people having more and more control over their lives is one that will catch on, and people will eventually crave it. Madam Speaker, federalism greatly worries the government, it is plain to see.

Date13:29:30, June 14, 2010 CET
From Hutorian Conservative Party
ToDebating the Devolved Infrastructure Act
MessageMadam Speaker, the state doesnt fear it, because the CLP will never be in office again! [sound of backbench laughter]

Date13:38:40, June 14, 2010 CET
From Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM)
ToDebating the Devolved Infrastructure Act
MessageMadam Speaker, those words may one day come to haunt the NSC. It looks unlikely now, but the gentleman should never say never. We should also remind the gentleman that the CLP still hold majorities in many local councils, and perhaps that is why the NSC oppose federalism.

Date23:50:53, June 14, 2010 CET
From Hutorian Conservative Party
ToDebating the Devolved Infrastructure Act
MessageRt Hon Baroness Marelle, Prime Minister,

Madam Speaker, we hardly fear Federalism! Thats an absolute certainty. What we dont want are irresponsible local governments and we want to see a singular nationwide policy on all issues. The CLP have admitted the only reason why they want this Bill is to give power to themselves in the local councils! We should have expected this to be another power-grabbing attempt by the CLP! Their Party hasnt changed at all, the same old stubborn party only looking out for itself and not the nation.

Date09:49:53, June 15, 2010 CET
From Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM)
ToDebating the Devolved Infrastructure Act
MessageMadam Speaker, this bill would also give power to NSC-run councils, independent councils, and the few remaining councils that follow Luskite policies. Madam Speaker, there are a multitude of councils with many different political parties, many of which are not represented in this Parliament. It cannot be said that we are simply power-grabbing. We are the first party for a long time that is actually advocating policies that would give power away. Madam Speaker, if I ever became Prime Minister, I would be the first to say that there are many areas of policy that I would not want control over. Madam Speaker, the NSC, who believe in the most powerful centralisation and control imaginable, have no right whatsoever to lecture others on power-grabbing.

Date12:35:17, June 15, 2010 CET
From Hutorian Conservative Party
ToDebating the Devolved Infrastructure Act
MessageRt Hon Sarah Marelle, Prime Minister,

Madam Speaker, the NSC cannot power-grab by itself. The CLP can thank the Labour member for giving the state extensive and far-reaching powers when it was an NSC/Labour government. They can then thank Labour again for forcing the states hand in a series of illegal and unfounded protests. It seems Labour have had just as much input as the NSC in this 'power grabbing' because without the Labour protests then we wouldnt have changed the laws on powers of the police, public gathering, death penalty and more. So Madam Speaker, the CLP cannot point the finger of blame solely at the NSC.

Date13:38:51, June 15, 2010 CET
From Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM)
ToDebating the Devolved Infrastructure Act
MessageMadam Speaker, we cannot accept that argument at all. The CLP have been in power under far more testing circumstances. In the 2870s we were in power when fascist parties launched horrific terrorist attacks on the people of Hutori. Not once did we erode civil liberties. We were in power when nine of our most prominent members were kidnapped and brutally murdered. We could really have clamped down on civil liberties in the way that the NSC have done, and we didn't. Madam Speaker, our Party has seen many of our own members brutally murdered, from Marquess Percival in the 70s, to the nine not so long ago. Civil liberties were preserved and the crimes were dealt with under the ordinary judicial process. The NSC cannot use religious protest as an excuse for imprisoning the entire population. Madam Speaker, is was simply convenient for the NSC to do so. Why didn't they follow our example, Madam Speaker? As soon as the state starts resorting to terrorist measures itself, it loses the moral argument.

Date13:44:01, June 15, 2010 CET
From Hutorian Conservative Party
ToDebating the Devolved Infrastructure Act
MessageRt Hon Sarah Marelle, Prime Minister,

Madam Speaker, its fairly obvious why we dont follow CLP example. Do nothing and try and scare the nation through scare-mongering in Parliament? Well that would have been helpful. Hutori was on the brink of anarchy and the NSC and UFD have recovered Hutori and we are about to turn it into one of the strongest states on Terra. All the CLP have done when in power was sit idly by and do barely anything! The NSC have revolutionised Hutori for the better!

Date14:48:51, June 15, 2010 CET
From Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM)
ToDebating the Devolved Infrastructure Act
MessageMadam Speaker, what rubbish. We did not sit idly by. The leading terrorists of the 70s were captured, tried and sentenced. Similarly, the kidnappers of the CLP members were eventually found and are now serving life in prison, including the former ally of the NSC, Paulo Fortunato.

Madam Speaker, Hutori was not on the brink of anarchy. There were some peaceful protests in opposition to the government's religious policy. This is a far cry from the murder, bombs and devastation of the 70s that saw hundreds of innocent Hutorians murdered by fascists and nationalists. Of course, now it is this government that proposes to introduce state-enforced murder.

Madam Speaker, a strong state is not the one that erodes civil liberties, restricts the freedom of its citizens and oppresses the people. A strong state is one that recognises that the individual has rights that should not be infringed, that accepts the people are the masters of the government not the servants, and one that presides over a judicial and legal system that is just, firm and fair. Madam Speaker, an oppressive government will never earn the respect of the people. It may instil fear, but never respect. Madam Speaker, the Prime Minister is deluded if she believes that she is powerful and strong. She has made Hutori into an international laughing stock, run by a government that has no respect whatsoever for human rights.

Date14:54:41, June 15, 2010 CET
From Hutorian Conservative Party
ToDebating the Devolved Infrastructure Act
MessageRt Hon Duke McCullum MP, NSC Frontbencher,

Madam Speaker, the NSC has only done what we were elected to do. The CLP just seem very bitter that the people have finally realised who the real leaders of Hutori are! Hutorians have finally realised that the CLP are not the party to vote for because of their spineless attitude towards the Hutorian Army - that they imposed so many needless restrictions on and made a laughing stock! The NSC do not care what the rest of the world sees Hutori as. We do not want to be seen as 'another nation'. Baroness Marelle has turned Hutori around, from one where the CLP had decommissioned nuclear weapons where we were weak into a strong Hutori, one that other nations can fear.

Madam Speaker, if the NSC have no respect for the people. Then why were we re-elected after outlawing religion? Surely if people wanted that liberty they would have voted CLP and Labour? Madam Speaker, the NSC is not being oppressive we are simply giving the people what they voted for!

Date15:28:58, June 15, 2010 CET
From Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM)
ToDebating the Devolved Infrastructure Act
MessageMadam Speaker, as I have said countless times before, the NSC seem to think they have this universal and eternal mandate. They concentrate too much on the last election whilst forgetting that they have future elections to face. We shall soon see the response of the people to their oppression.

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