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Bill: Religious Civil Liberties Act (First Attempt)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Labour Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2954
Description[?]:
| As the PRLM is not allowed to conduct any form of protests against the government because they have taken away our civil liberties, we shall protest using our constituational rights, and continuously draft this legislation untill it is passed. We thank the government for their co-operation. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The state's intervention in the appointment of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The state appoints all heads and other ministers of all religions.
Current: The state does not intervene in the appointment of ministers of any religion whatsoever.
Proposed: The state does not intervene in the appointment of ministers of any religion whatsoever.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards evangelism and religious advertising.
Old value:: Religions are not permitted to promote themselves or advertise in any manner whatsoever.
Current: Religions are not permitted to promote themselves or advertise in any manner whatsoever.
Proposed: Religions are permitted to freely promote and advertise themselves.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: Any form of religion is banned.
Current: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Proposed: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:01:10, June 14, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Religious Civil Liberties Act (First Attempt) |
| Message | Rt Hon Baroness Marelle, Prime Minister, Madam Speaker, the people - in voting for the NSC/UFD coalition have shown they support the status quo. We do believe that this sort of arguement is a matter for Parliament to decide and to not take to the streets and comend Labour for doing so. Nevertheless, this Bill will not pass through the House as the NSC/UFD coalition is built on its anti-religous votes and for either of our parties to support this would be a betrayal to our voters and more than likely result in our voting out of office. We have always maintained there is no place for religion in Hutori and while the NSC is in power, we will strive to ensure it stays this way. |
| Date | 15:06:34, June 14, 2010 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Religious Civil Liberties Act (First Attempt) |
| Message | Madam Speaker, given that the NSC has betrayed the voters in other ways, what is to stop them from betraying them on this? Let me also remind the House that part of the government has its own religion and is allowed to get away with it. I cannot imagine the people will be happy with that. |
| Date | 15:09:21, June 14, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Religious Civil Liberties Act (First Attempt) |
| Message | Rt Hon Baroness Marelle, Prime Minister, Madam Speaker, the UFD has not got a religion! They defined it themselves so the CLP are incorrect when they say that a part of the House is a religion - unless they mean the Labour Party. |
| Date | 15:12:40, June 14, 2010 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Religious Civil Liberties Act (First Attempt) |
| Message | Madam Speaker, of course the UFD has a religion. It just worships living figures instead of deceased or mythical figures. Some of the Mashacara religions worshipped the animal kingdom and they have been deemed illegal, so a party that worsips living human beings must surely count as religious.. Madam Speaker, why are the NSC so blind as to their allies' failings? |
| Date | 15:24:07, June 14, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Religious Civil Liberties Act (First Attempt) |
| Message | Madam Speaker, should this not be argued with the UFD? Those who are in this apparant religion. The UFD insist that they are not a religion and the NSC believe them. What more do the CLP need to hear? |
| Date | 15:35:47, June 14, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Religious Civil Liberties Act (First Attempt) |
| Message | Rt Hon Michael Mancini MP, NSC Frontbencher, Madam Speaker, we also tell the CLP and Labour that they are simply wasting their breath and quota by continually proposing pro-religion Bills. This government will not pass any of them as i assume the (first reading) means there will be more. |
| Date | 15:48:30, June 14, 2010 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Religious Civil Liberties Act (First Attempt) |
| Message | Madam Speaker, the CLP has not proposed any pro-religion bills. Nor would it ever propose "pro-religion" bills. It would propose "pro-neutrality" bills if anything. But, Madam Speaker, it is important that the people know exactly what the parties stand for. It is clear to see that, although this won't pass, the people will know exactly how passionate parties are about it. |
| Date | 16:21:50, June 14, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Religious Civil Liberties Act (First Attempt) |
| Message | Madam Speaker, at least the CLP realise they have no real influence anymore. The NSC will continue to remove religion and the police as we speak are destroying churches and overseeing that religion will never rear its head in Hutori again. |
| Date | 16:28:40, June 14, 2010 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Religious Civil Liberties Act (First Attempt) |
| Message | Madam Speaker, they NSC do not desire to remove religion. They desire simply to remove enough religions to make way for the cult of decay which it seems this government is making into a state religion by the back door. Madam Speaker, government can never destroy religion for over half of this country are religious. Belief, faith and commitment don't vanish simply by statute. |
| Date | 16:33:15, June 14, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Religious Civil Liberties Act (First Attempt) |
| Message | Madam Speaker, Labour have already informed the House that half the population isnt religous. Unless religous people voted for the NSC/UFD - very unlikely - then how did we get our majority? |
| Date | 16:40:50, June 14, 2010 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Religious Civil Liberties Act (First Attempt) |
| Message | 25% Lutheran 14% Catholic 12% Non-Lutheran Protestant 5% Jewish 2% Other 21% Atheist 21% agnostic or non-aligned. http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=291963 Madam Speaker, this is only 10 years ago so will barely have changed at all. Of course, any census conducted now would be based on false grounds for nobody would dare define themselves as religious given that it is now illegal! |
| Date | 16:42:24, June 14, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Religious Civil Liberties Act (First Attempt) |
| Message | Madam Speaker, obviously there are unreliabilities about the census, but the people gave the NSC/UFD a majority so we arent complaining. |
| Date | 16:51:46, June 14, 2010 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Religious Civil Liberties Act (First Attempt) |
| Message | It's funny that the HNP didn't raise their "unreliabilities" at the time. Perhaps, Madam Speaker, there were also unreliabilities about the election outcome? |
| Date | 16:52:44, June 14, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Religious Civil Liberties Act (First Attempt) |
| Message | Doubt it Madam Speaker, the CLP came last so there cant be [sound of backbench laughter] |
| Date | 17:00:06, June 14, 2010 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Religious Civil Liberties Act (First Attempt) |
| Message | Madam Speaker, there is only one joke in this Parliament, and he isn't sitting on the CLP benches. |
| Date | 17:01:30, June 14, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Religious Civil Liberties Act (First Attempt) |
| Message | Madam Speaker, i know that - hes on the Labour ones. |
| Date | 22:54:05, June 14, 2010 CET | From | Christian Imperial Party | To | Debating the Religious Civil Liberties Act (First Attempt) |
| Message | A message arrives to the Provisional Religious Labour Movement UM to be read aloud. The Commonwealth of Yishelem and Beiteynu is opening its borders to take in any religious refugees of the Christian or Jewish faith into our nation. Refugees will be given integration aid to help them adjust. Foreign Minister David Eddins Christian Imperial Party |
| Date | 23:19:06, June 14, 2010 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Religious Civil Liberties Act (First Attempt) |
| Message | Madam Speaker, am I still a Joke? |
| Date | 23:36:43, June 14, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Religious Civil Liberties Act (First Attempt) |
| Message | Rt Hon Baroness Marelle, Prime Minister, Sorry Madam Speaker, he is not a joke. The NSC are just toying with the CLP comments. Now Madam Speaker, should a foreign party with no representation in Hutori be allowed to make comments in this House? I believe it shouldnt! |
| Date | 09:51:19, June 15, 2010 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Religious Civil Liberties Act (First Attempt) |
| Message | Madam Speaker, the foreign party didn't make a comment. A letter was handed to the Duke Buchanan who read it aloud. |
| Date | 12:13:35, June 15, 2010 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Religious Civil Liberties Act (First Attempt) |
| Message | Madam Speaker, just to return to the former issue as to whether the Cult of Decay should be classed as a religion or not, perhaps the House would like to remind themselves of a statement made by a UFD spokesman in this House on the Great Abolition of Religion Act: "The only religion that should be accepted is the Cult of Decay. And as long as there are not enough cultists to take this step, no other religions should be allowed." http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=293673 Madam Speaker, the people of this country need no further evidence as to the way in which this government ignores its own laws on the banning of religion. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 139 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 252 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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