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Bill: Border Control Bill of 2953
Details
Submitted by[?]: Hutorian Conservative Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2954
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Travel by nationals to foreign nations
Old value:: The nation issues passports on demand for any reason to its nationals
Current: The nation issues passports to nationals after a cursory security check.
Proposed: The nation does not issue passports to any nationals, except on specific authorisation of the Foreign Minister.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:21:51, June 14, 2010 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Border Control Bill of 2953 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, The Government does not want to go ahead with this... It will upset some of our friends. Rabbi Uzziel Yitzhak, Shadow Minister of Foreign Affairs. |
| Date | 23:22:48, June 14, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Border Control Bill of 2953 |
| Message | Rt Hon Baroness Marelle, Prime Minister, Madam Speaker, with the recent statement by the Christian Imperial Party the state needs to close off our borders to the outside world. They want to effectivley steal Hutorian citizens for their own purposes in The Commonwealth of Yishelem and Beiteynu. Hutorians should not be exploited by this party - and should remain within our borders. I hope the UFD support this Bill, as Hutori needs Hutorians. |
| Date | 23:25:14, June 14, 2010 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Border Control Bill of 2953 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, are they going to further opress their citizens? Madam Speaker, have they utterly lied to this nation? What happened to our once-upon-a-time allied who cared about the people of this nation by offering them good public services and freedom of speech and movement? They have taken away our liberties! Will the prime minister answer! |
| Date | 23:31:07, June 14, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Border Control Bill of 2953 |
| Message | Rt Hon Baroness Marelle, Prime Minister, Madam Speaker, the NSC have not lied to the nation! Madam Speaker, the NSC has had to limit civil liberties because of the Labour Party and their antics. The Christian Imperial Party statement shows this has religion issue has not yet dissapeared so we cannot restore liberties until we are sure that this whole debacle is over. The NSC record on public services is spotless, with our nationalisation Bills provide the best service to the Hutorian citizen. I want to see liberty restored but at this time, state stability must be the major issue. |
| Date | 23:34:39, June 14, 2010 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Border Control Bill of 2953 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, yet you will not allow citizens who want to practice their faith to go and do it elsewher? Don't you see, this means you have won... At least if religion is banned here, let people go elsewhere to practice it. |
| Date | 23:40:05, June 14, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Border Control Bill of 2953 |
| Message | Rt Hon Baroness Marelle, Prime Minister, Madam Speaker, we were elected to govern all Hutorians! To let them walk away to a foeign land would be a great indictment on our record. We want to preside over all Hutorians and we mean all Hutorians. Besides we believe in an isolationist policy and we want our state to become a totalitarian state, cut off from the rest of the world as a socialist utopia! We have almost achieved all three and cannot be stopped from completing its aims. |
| Date | 10:03:04, June 15, 2010 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Border Control Bill of 2953 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, I am no longer surprised by anything that the NSC does. They have deceived the electorate, who believed them to be committed to civil liberties. This is a disgusting Act. |
| Date | 12:39:36, June 15, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Border Control Bill of 2953 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, the NSC has always persued an isolationist policy and the people know that. To suggest we decieved them is laughable. |
| Date | 13:43:14, June 15, 2010 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Border Control Bill of 2953 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, that is a complete falsification! The NSC joined treaties and claimed they were internationalist and that the CLP's "isolationist" position was stuck in the past. Madam Speaker, there is a difference between isolationism and preventing citizens from leaving the country. The people did not vote for that. They voted for a party that they believed now respected civil liberties. Madam Speaker, the NSC lied. |
| Date | 13:51:45, June 15, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Border Control Bill of 2953 |
| Message | Rt Hon Duke McCullum MP, NSC Frontbencher, Madam Speaker, we urge the CLP member to retract his statement about the NSC lying. People knew the NSC stance when we stood at the last general election. If there was any suspicion in the peoples minds about not wanting isolationism and then voting NSC - they wouldnt have done it. Besides the NSC will not be lectured on how it campaigns for elections with a party that has just suffered its worst electoral performance in recent memory! |
| Date | 14:38:36, June 15, 2010 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Border Control Bill of 2953 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, the CLP losed seats in this election, but at least they where honest. Madam Speaker, 109 MP's here witness to the lies of the NSC. |
| Date | 14:44:32, June 15, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Border Control Bill of 2953 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, that the sound of Labour tagging along with the CLP - unable to come up with their own arguements? |
| Date | 14:57:22, June 15, 2010 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Border Control Bill of 2953 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, I will not retract my statement. The NSC have lied. Behind their conversion from the HNP to the NSC was a commitment to civil liberties. The people of this country believed that the NSC would no longer come to power and erode their liberties. We believed that, as did the Labour Party, as did the people of this country. Madam Speaker, the NSC have broken their promises. The people were never told in the election campaign that they would be barred from travelling abroad, unless they got the specific authorisation of the Foreign Secretary. They were never told that. They were not told that all foreign embassies would be closed. Madam Speaker, the government is basically turning the country into a fortress, isn't it? That was never specified. They claim the mandate of the people, but the mandate is a fake. Madam Speaker, there is a difference between isolationism and oppression. The NSC gave the impression before the election that, in any case, they were internationalist. Why else would they ratify international treaties and accuse the CLP of being "stuck in the past" by voting against them. Madam Speaker, the people have been deceived and history will judge this government extremely harshly indeed. |
| Date | 15:06:02, June 15, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Border Control Bill of 2953 |
| Message | Rt Hon Duke McCullum MP, NSC Frontbencher, Madam Speaker, the NSC has only done what the CLP has always done. While in oppostion, the CLP would do anything to get back into power. They would cross any party, backstab allies or say whatever is needed to get votes. There is nothing the NSC has done while in opposition that the same can be said for the CLP. Their UM - where they still maintain themselves as Leaders of the UM, is simply an alliance to ensure the CLP get power! If they didnt have the UM then the CLP would be nowhere near high office again. They are a leech on support of popular parties - like now as they desperatley cling to the coatails of the Labour Party! The NSC, Madam Speaker, has only said what is needed to return us to where we deserve and now that we are here - we are planning on staying. |
| Date | 15:23:10, June 15, 2010 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Border Control Bill of 2953 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, perhaps the NSC could give some examples of his accusations. Perhaps he could prepare an example of when we have changed our minds on issues to garner votes? Only once have we amended any of our cornerstones, and that was in the days of Duke Carter. Madam Speaker, our policies have always been consistent. We would not do anything to get power. Given that my predecessor as leader, Countess Bridges, withdrew the CLP from government to allow Labour to approach the NSC, he is very wide of the mark on that one. Madam Speaker, we have consistently advocated liberty and democracy. We have never said one thing to the voters and then got into office and done another. Madam Speaker, the NSC cannot begin to draw similarities between us. |
| Date | 15:27:10, June 15, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Border Control Bill of 2953 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, then why if "Countess Bridges, withdrew the CLP from government to allow Labour to approach the NSC" are Labour still in the UM with the CLP. That just proves that the CLP are just trying to cling on to a movement that may get them in office. |
| Date | 15:42:10, June 15, 2010 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Border Control Bill of 2953 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, the Labour Party and the CLP remain in the United Movement because we are both still committed to seeing a Hutori free from the politics of race, hate and division and we both still have respect for the individual. We withdrew from the coalition because we believed our aims had largely been met. The HNP had become the NSC and promised to protect civil liberties. It seemed then that the Labour Party and the NSC were virtually identical and so should govern together. Madam Speaker, given all the arguments we had over the UM, the NSC will remember that the UM was founded on social issues and meant that economics was never a feature of any UM coalition. Madam Speaker, obviously, the NSC went back on their statement about protecting civil liberties and so the ideals of the UM remain stronger than ever. That is why the UM still exists and the CLP and Labour Party continue to work alongside one another - because we share the same aims as we did all those years ago. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 252 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 139 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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