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Bill: Fist of the Law
Details
Submitted by[?]: First Wave Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2962
Description[?]:
| Law is strength, but the strength of the law lies in the men who enforce it, they cannot enforce their full strength when they can be questioned as lords of the law by common people. This law will ensure that the law, and the state, cannot be disobeyed. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The right to appeal against a judgement rendered by a court.
Old value:: Every person has the right to appeal against a judgement and to have it reviewed by a higher court.
Current: Every person has the right to appeal against a judgement and to have it reviewed by a higher court.
Proposed: All judgements are final and binding; appealing against them is not possible.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change
The government's stance on illegal aliens.
Old value:: The government does not actively search for illegal aliens, but expels them from the country when discovered.
Current: The government actively searches houses for illegal aliens and expels them from the country.
Proposed: The government actively searches houses for illegal aliens and expels them from the country.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The use of torture for obtaining information.
Old value:: Suspects can only be tortured under grave emergencies where the information is vital.
Current: Torture is never allowed.
Proposed: It is at the discretion of the police officer to torture suspects for information.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Education in prisons.
Old value:: An education plan for prisoners is provided to improve rehabilitation.
Current: An education plan for prisoners is provided to improve rehabilitation.
Proposed: Prisoners are not given any form of education.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 10:51:32, June 30, 2010 CET | From | Constitutionalist Imperial League (IA) | To | Debating the Fist of the Law |
| Message | Mr Speaker, There are some articles in this bill that we support. We would not be against limiting appeals although we find it distasteful to band them altogether, judgement are given by human beings who are imperfect and thus liable to error. Furthermore, we would like to ask the FWP to elaborate on why we need article 2 passed, if it can convince us, we will support it. We believe article 3 is extreme. While torture can be a very effective tool in the right circumstances, it should not be applied for whatever offense a police officer thinks merits it. Finally, article 4 has our full support. We encourage the FWP to leave the bill in debate phase longer in the future. I yield. |
| Date | 10:51:33, June 30, 2010 CET | From | Constitutionalist Imperial League (IA) | To | Debating the Fist of the Law |
| Message | Mr Speaker, There are some articles in this bill that we support. We would not be against limiting appeals although we find it distasteful to band them altogether, judgement are given by human beings who are imperfect and thus liable to error. Furthermore, we would like to ask the FWP to elaborate on why we need article 2 passed, if it can convince us, we will support it. We believe article 3 is extreme. While torture can be a very effective tool in the right circumstances, it should not be applied for whatever offense a police officer thinks merits it. Finally, article 4 has our full support. We encourage the FWP to leave the bill in debate phase longer in the future. I yield. |
| Date | 12:48:04, June 30, 2010 CET | From | First Wave Party | To | Debating the Fist of the Law |
| Message | This article was left in debate phase for a significant period. Illegal aliens drain without giving back, take without justifying taking and rely upon the illegal acts of others. That they exist within our nation is a show of illegality in itself, the effect they have upon it is why they should be actively found and expelled. They can only survive off the illegal acts of others, and as beyond the law, are far from all laws which benefit the nation, whilst thriving breaking those which protect it from harm. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 0 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 21 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 158 |
| Random fact: Any RP law granting extraordinary "emergency powers" or dictator-like powers to a government must be passed by at least a 2/3rds majority, but (like all RP laws) may always be overturned by a simple majority vote of the legislature. |
| Random quote: "We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant." - Karl Popper |