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Bill: Eliminating IDs
Details
Submitted by[?]: Mountain Man Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2965
Description[?]:
| National IDs are unnecessary and unwanted. We can do just fine without this service. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government-issued identity card policy.
Old value:: Citizens are issued with identity cards on a voluntary basis.
Current: All citizens are issued with identity cards and are required to carry them at all times.
Proposed: Citizens are not issued with identity cards.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:50:27, July 04, 2010 CET | From |  Anarcho-Primitivist Concern | To | Debating the Eliminating IDs |
| Message | We will support you in this. |
| Date | 22:46:47, July 04, 2010 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Eliminating IDs |
| Message | Why? What about those who doesn't have any other way of Identifying themselves? Don't they deserve the ease of ID cards? Or should they just walk around with their passports the whole day, with the risk of losing it. We will vote no. |
| Date | 00:27:00, July 05, 2010 CET | From | Dark Templar (LL) | To | Debating the Eliminating IDs |
| Message | if this passes I plan on stealing you ID |
| Date | 00:40:00, July 05, 2010 CET | From | Mountain Man Party | To | Debating the Eliminating IDs |
| Message | Ain't no worse to lose one kind of ID than another. You still gotta replace it. The question is, why we need IDs at all? When I tell people I'm Old Man Hickory, I expect them to believe me. If one of you untrustin' city folk don't believe me, I got plenty of ways to prove it. |
| Date | 00:41:00, July 05, 2010 CET | From | Mountain Man Party | To | Debating the Eliminating IDs |
| Message | Can't steal an ID if that don't exist. |
| Date | 01:05:23, July 05, 2010 CET | From | Dark Templar (LL) | To | Debating the Eliminating IDs |
| Message | why howdy ya'll I'm old man hickory and I just finished of incestuous relations with my chill'in- see since you have no idea who's to say I am not old man hickory? but since you DO have ID then you can prove who you are. High Templar Vesskar |
| Date | 01:06:58, July 05, 2010 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Eliminating IDs |
| Message | So you expect that everyone is fair and just? And everyone should just trust each other? We need ID's so those who don't have another way of identifying themselves don't have to carry their passports everywhere they go. |
| Date | 09:18:29, July 05, 2010 CET | From | SCI Libertarian-Socialist Syndicate (LL) | To | Debating the Eliminating IDs |
| Message | State-Issued ID Cards are for the proper and efficient operation of our Government, disruption of which will not be tolerated by the Synarchist Council. |
| Date | 16:18:30, July 05, 2010 CET | From | Art & Labour | To | Debating the Eliminating IDs |
| Message | We support this. Of course, its not like it matters, for it is but a mere distraction from our inevitable deaths. |
| Date | 19:06:48, July 05, 2010 CET | From | Mountain Man Party | To | Debating the Eliminating IDs |
| Message | *Old Man Hickory's voice rises and face becomes red* I don't take too kindly to Mr. High Templer's words. We didn't come here to exchange insults, but to address the concerns of my constituents that he obviously don't think too highly of. Why if I had any kin, I'd have good mind to teach him a lesson. Hold on a minute while I calm my nerves. *Takes out a hip flask and takes a swig.* |
| Date | 14:11:36, July 06, 2010 CET | From | SCI Libertarian-Socialist Syndicate (LL) | To | Debating the Eliminating IDs |
| Message | *looks around for congressional security* Don't we have some rules about representatives not "legislating while intoxicated"? ;) |
| Date | 18:17:00, July 06, 2010 CET | From | Art & Labour | To | Debating the Eliminating IDs |
| Message | ^ I dont care what you say to be honest. |
| Date | 03:39:23, July 07, 2010 CET | From | SCI Libertarian-Socialist Syndicate (LL) | To | Debating the Eliminating IDs |
| Message | OOC: Why do you seem to not like me, SLD? I'm still a person, just playing a game. |
| Date | 03:40:51, July 07, 2010 CET | From | SCI Libertarian-Socialist Syndicate (LL) | To | Debating the Eliminating IDs |
| Message | OOC: And, to be honest as well, in real life, my political beliefs are exactly the opposite of my party's beliefs, for the most part. :) |
| Date | 05:02:32, July 07, 2010 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Eliminating IDs |
| Message | As much as one party may not agree with the other, we must respect their opinions, as they are also opinions of millions of Ikradonians. Also, on the issue of ID cards, we find it unreasonable to think that every single one of Ikradon's over 600 million inhabitants will and/or can trust each other, and thus for those with no driver's license and other source for ID, the ID cards is a better alternative than having to carry your passport everywhere. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 152 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 598 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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