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Bill: The Church of Solentia
Details
Submitted by[?]: Meritocratic Alliance
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2981
Description[?]:
| to establish a state supported ecumenical religious entity for our nation. The Church of Solentia shall be built upon the framework of the Orthodox Catholic Church The Church shall be autocephalous The Church shall make all reasonable support in setting ecclesias for minority faiths. The Church shall at all times support the rights of men and women, while serving as a bedrock to their spiritual growth. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Remuneration of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Current: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Proposed: The salaries and pensions of ministers of religion shall be borne by the state and regulated by the law.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Current: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Proposed: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:27:35, August 05, 2010 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the The Church of Solentia |
| Message | "I inquire the nature of such a Church. This really should have been open to deeper debate." James Cardinal Brandt, Sen. CUP Spokesman for Faith and Spirituality. |
| Date | 18:45:50, August 05, 2010 CET | From | Sue's Corner | To | Debating the The Church of Solentia |
| Message | I believe it is open to 'deeper debate,' you make of it what you put into it. Also, we won't vote on this issue now as the election will be held before this has to come to a vote. Damon Burns |
| Date | 18:49:32, August 05, 2010 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the The Church of Solentia |
| Message | "That is exactly why it should have been left until after the election before vote, so that we might discuss what faith this "Church of Solentia" would follow. I should hope Orhtodox Catholic, however there are many Muslims and Jews in our party who would disagree with me. Can the Crown Party clarify exactly what faith this single church would be?" James Cardinal Brandt, Sen. CUP Spokesman for Faith and Spirituality. |
| Date | 18:51:12, August 05, 2010 CET | From | Sue's Corner | To | Debating the The Church of Solentia |
| Message | I would like to point out the hypocritical nature of this weak and discredited government. You too have opened a debate to a vote, which cannot be completed before the election. One rule for you and another for everyone else? Damon Burns |
| Date | 18:51:51, August 05, 2010 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the The Church of Solentia |
| Message | It would be primarily Christian, but invividual ecclesias could be formed for minority faiths. |
| Date | 18:56:25, August 05, 2010 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the The Church of Solentia |
| Message | "Of which Christian branch precisely?" James Cardinal Brandt, Sen. CUP Spokesman for Faith and Spirituality. |
| Date | 19:02:47, August 05, 2010 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the The Church of Solentia |
| Message | The Orthodox Catholic Church, as we see it. http://classic.particracy.net/vieworganization.php?organizationid=2156 |
| Date | 19:04:39, August 05, 2010 CET | From | Sue's Corner | To | Debating the The Church of Solentia |
| Message | We would be prepared to support if membership became compulsory, but I certainly think the ACp will take the issue incredibly seriously. Sylvia O Hara, Deputy Leader and Equalities Spokesperson |
| Date | 19:05:55, August 05, 2010 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the The Church of Solentia |
| Message | "I am most overjoyed to hear that the Crown Party are, like the CUP, endorsing the true faith. Most excellent news." James Cardinal Brandt, Sen. CUP Spokesman for Faith and Spirituality. |
| Date | 19:06:26, August 05, 2010 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the The Church of Solentia |
| Message | If the bill fails, as it seems destined, we are willing to resubmit it after debate and compromise from all interesed parties, and leave a better worded bill. Senator Phillipa Adams |
| Date | 19:11:06, August 05, 2010 CET | From | Sue's Corner | To | Debating the The Church of Solentia |
| Message | It won't have time to pass before the election now. Debate is essential on these reforms, but I thank the Crown for taking action on issues where the current government have failed us time and time again. Sylvia O Hara. Deputy Leader |
| Date | 22:25:58, August 06, 2010 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the The Church of Solentia |
| Message | please see modifications |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 58 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 42 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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