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Bill: LGBT Rights Act 2980
Details
Submitted by[?]: Coalition for National Unity [CNU]
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2981
Description[?]:
CUP: A Fair Solentia Secretary of State for Internal Affairs: Matti Lehtimäki, Sen. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Military stance on homosexuality.
Old value:: Open homosexuality is not tolerated in the military. The military has a "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
Current: Homosexuality is not tolerated in the military. The military actively seeks to remove homosexuals from it.
Proposed: Homosexuality is allowed in the military.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy toward marriage.
Old value:: The government only recognises civil marriages between a man and a woman.
Current: The government only recognises civil marriages between a man and a woman.
Proposed: The government allows all consenting adults to obtain civil marriage contracts.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 22:24:00, August 06, 2010 CET | From | Sue's Corner | To | Debating the LGBT Rights Act 2980 |
Message | Another government legislation, and more breaks with morality. Sylvia O' Hara, Acting Conservative Leader. |
Date | 22:29:36, August 06, 2010 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the LGBT Rights Act 2980 |
Message | "The Conservatives' tragic record on civil liberties and the pink agenda are but one reason why we rejected their offer of shared governance. You are letting down consituents, Ms. O'Hara. I had hoped that with the exit of Mr. Burns, the Party would begin a common sense, just and fair path, more let-downs." Matti Lehtimäki, Secretary of State for Internal Affairs. CUP Senatorial Lead. |
Date | 22:33:13, August 06, 2010 CET | From | Sue's Corner | To | Debating the LGBT Rights Act 2980 |
Message | How have we let our constitents down? We campaigned on an agenda of morality and religion, and we have stuck to that by opposing this. This is what our constituents would wish for us to do. Furthermore, unlike your party, we don't ditch our manifesto, swoop to the left and stick the label conservativism over our party. There is nothing Conservative or religious about allowing members of the same sex a marriage certificate. Sylvia O Hara Acting Conservative Leader |
Date | 22:35:54, August 06, 2010 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the LGBT Rights Act 2980 |
Message | Sadly we do not think our nation is ready for this. |
Date | 22:36:25, August 06, 2010 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the LGBT Rights Act 2980 |
Message | "Your constituents are more than simply those who voted for you Ms. O'Hara, I shouldn't have to remind you that you have a duty of pastoral care to ALL of your constituents. The CUP have maintained our manifesto promises, as we have always done, we have promises sensible national-interest governance, which is what we have always provided and not once have we promised to be a theocratic force. I believe Ms. O'Hara may be mistaking us with her own party." Matti Lehtimäki, Secretary of State for Internal Affairs. CUP Senatorial Lead. |
Date | 22:41:58, August 06, 2010 CET | From | Sue's Corner | To | Debating the LGBT Rights Act 2980 |
Message | What nonsense. For first instance, the CUP are equally unrepresentative of their constituents who are deeply moral and religious and oppose this legislation, as we are, so he is letting his constituents down as much as we are/are not, depending on how you view it. Secondly, if the minister seriously thinks two reforms in three years and mass defeats on everything else proposed, he clearly hasn't enjoyed stable government before. Thirdly, we haven't broken a single manifesto commitment and stay true to Conservative beliefs. It is such a shame the CUP cannot claim the latter. Sylvia O Hara Acting Tory Leader |
Date | 22:50:09, August 06, 2010 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the LGBT Rights Act 2980 |
Message | "Which is why the CUP back free faith and support the Church's ability to set its own internal regulations. This Act will recognise civil marriage contracts, not just religious marriages, which remain firmly under the control of the Church. The Lady is confusing herself; we did not claim that you broke your questionable manifesto pledges, only that we ourselves did not, as you randomly claimed without evidence. The CUP are conservative, we are conservatives because we believe in the individual. We believe that the individual can make free choice in their lives without statism and bedroom government as her own party proposes. We are conservative because we are not politically extreme. We are firmly sensible and cautious. We do not advocate the same radical capitalist economics as her own party do in such a textbook fashion because we are conservative enough to realise that the extreme right are as dangerous as the extreme left. And we are conservative because we support tradition. We support the Federal Republic and her ancient ways; we do not propose reforms as her own party does. What was it? A "Prime Minister"? Perhaps at one time, not now, it is so unsolentian." Matti Lehtimäki, Secretary of State for Internal Affairs. CUP Senatorial Lead. |
Date | 23:40:25, August 06, 2010 CET | From | Sue's Corner | To | Debating the LGBT Rights Act 2980 |
Message | The fact is churches are free to detirmine their own agenda, and religions and many religious people do decide that they are against this legislation. We therefore have to oppose so that religions can see their views represented. Sylvia O'Hara Acting Conservative Leader |
Date | 23:43:54, August 06, 2010 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the LGBT Rights Act 2980 |
Message | "And what of those who seek to marry those they wish? More statism I see, dissapointing." Matti Lehtimäki, Secretary of State for Internal Affairs. CUP Senatorial Lead. |
Date | 23:57:28, August 06, 2010 CET | From | Sue's Corner | To | Debating the LGBT Rights Act 2980 |
Message | We can easily spin the question on its head, what about those who don't wish for people to marry and find it insulting that their churches are welcoming in gays to marry, despite the fact the bible and churches and religions oppose such things. You say you favour individualism, yet you are ignoring the wishes of churches by enforcing civil marriages on people. More Statism I see, dissapointing. Sylvia O Hara, Acting Tory Leader. |
Date | 12:49:54, August 07, 2010 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the LGBT Rights Act 2980 |
Message | "As already stated, this Act permits Civil Marriages, not religious ones which remain under the command of the Church. If a Church allows gay marriage and an individual disagrees, they are free to select a more rightist alternative. Furthermore, if these individuals have a problem with same sex marriages, the simple solution is for them not to enter one." Matti Lehtimäki, Secretary of State for Internal Affairs. CUP Senatorial Lead. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||||
yes |
Total Seats: 58 | |||||
no | Total Seats: 42 | |||||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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