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Bill: LGBT Rights Act 2980

Details

Submitted by[?]: Coalition for National Unity [CNU]

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: February 2981

Description[?]:

CUP: A Fair Solentia
Secretary of State for Internal Affairs: Matti Lehtimäki, Sen.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date22:24:00, August 06, 2010 CET
From Sue's Corner
ToDebating the LGBT Rights Act 2980
MessageAnother government legislation, and more breaks with morality.

Sylvia O' Hara, Acting Conservative Leader.

Date22:29:36, August 06, 2010 CET
From Coalition for National Unity [CNU]
ToDebating the LGBT Rights Act 2980
Message"The Conservatives' tragic record on civil liberties and the pink agenda are but one reason why we rejected their offer of shared governance. You are letting down consituents, Ms. O'Hara. I had hoped that with the exit of Mr. Burns, the Party would begin a common sense, just and fair path, more let-downs."

Matti Lehtimäki, Secretary of State for Internal Affairs.
CUP Senatorial Lead.

Date22:33:13, August 06, 2010 CET
From Sue's Corner
ToDebating the LGBT Rights Act 2980
MessageHow have we let our constitents down? We campaigned on an agenda of morality and religion, and we have stuck to that by opposing this. This is what our constituents would wish for us to do. Furthermore, unlike your party, we don't ditch our manifesto, swoop to the left and stick the label conservativism over our party. There is nothing Conservative or religious about allowing members of the same sex a marriage certificate.

Sylvia O Hara
Acting Conservative Leader

Date22:35:54, August 06, 2010 CET
From Meritocratic Alliance
ToDebating the LGBT Rights Act 2980
MessageSadly we do not think our nation is ready for this.

Date22:36:25, August 06, 2010 CET
From Coalition for National Unity [CNU]
ToDebating the LGBT Rights Act 2980
Message"Your constituents are more than simply those who voted for you Ms. O'Hara, I shouldn't have to remind you that you have a duty of pastoral care to ALL of your constituents.

The CUP have maintained our manifesto promises, as we have always done, we have promises sensible national-interest governance, which is what we have always provided and not once have we promised to be a theocratic force. I believe Ms. O'Hara may be mistaking us with her own party."

Matti Lehtimäki, Secretary of State for Internal Affairs.
CUP Senatorial Lead.

Date22:41:58, August 06, 2010 CET
From Sue's Corner
ToDebating the LGBT Rights Act 2980
MessageWhat nonsense. For first instance, the CUP are equally unrepresentative of their constituents who are deeply moral and religious and oppose this legislation, as we are, so he is letting his constituents down as much as we are/are not, depending on how you view it.

Secondly, if the minister seriously thinks two reforms in three years and mass defeats on everything else proposed, he clearly hasn't enjoyed stable government before.

Thirdly, we haven't broken a single manifesto commitment and stay true to Conservative beliefs. It is such a shame the CUP cannot claim the latter.

Sylvia O Hara
Acting Tory Leader

Date22:50:09, August 06, 2010 CET
From Coalition for National Unity [CNU]
ToDebating the LGBT Rights Act 2980
Message"Which is why the CUP back free faith and support the Church's ability to set its own internal regulations. This Act will recognise civil marriage contracts, not just religious marriages, which remain firmly under the control of the Church. The Lady is confusing herself; we did not claim that you broke your questionable manifesto pledges, only that we ourselves did not, as you randomly claimed without evidence.

The CUP are conservative, we are conservatives because we believe in the individual. We believe that the individual can make free choice in their lives without statism and bedroom government as her own party proposes. We are conservative because we are not politically extreme. We are firmly sensible and cautious. We do not advocate the same radical capitalist economics as her own party do in such a textbook fashion because we are conservative enough to realise that the extreme right are as dangerous as the extreme left. And we are conservative because we support tradition. We support the Federal Republic and her ancient ways; we do not propose reforms as her own party does. What was it? A "Prime Minister"? Perhaps at one time, not now, it is so unsolentian."

Matti Lehtimäki, Secretary of State for Internal Affairs.
CUP Senatorial Lead.

Date23:40:25, August 06, 2010 CET
From Sue's Corner
ToDebating the LGBT Rights Act 2980
MessageThe fact is churches are free to detirmine their own agenda, and religions and many religious people do decide that they are against this legislation. We therefore have to oppose so that religions can see their views represented.

Sylvia O'Hara
Acting Conservative Leader

Date23:43:54, August 06, 2010 CET
From Coalition for National Unity [CNU]
ToDebating the LGBT Rights Act 2980
Message"And what of those who seek to marry those they wish? More statism I see, dissapointing."

Matti Lehtimäki, Secretary of State for Internal Affairs.
CUP Senatorial Lead.

Date23:57:28, August 06, 2010 CET
From Sue's Corner
ToDebating the LGBT Rights Act 2980
MessageWe can easily spin the question on its head, what about those who don't wish for people to marry and find it insulting that their churches are welcoming in gays to marry, despite the fact the bible and churches and religions oppose such things. You say you favour individualism, yet you are ignoring the wishes of churches by enforcing civil marriages on people. More Statism I see, dissapointing.

Sylvia O Hara, Acting Tory Leader.

Date12:49:54, August 07, 2010 CET
From Coalition for National Unity [CNU]
ToDebating the LGBT Rights Act 2980
Message"As already stated, this Act permits Civil Marriages, not religious ones which remain under the command of the Church. If a Church allows gay marriage and an individual disagrees, they are free to select a more rightist alternative. Furthermore, if these individuals have a problem with same sex marriages, the simple solution is for them not to enter one."

Matti Lehtimäki, Secretary of State for Internal Affairs.
CUP Senatorial Lead.

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