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Bill: Solentian Centrist Initiative IV: Legitimate State Monopoly of Violence (CMP-SCI-IV)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Coalition for National Unity [CNU]
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2985
Description[?]:
Centre Moderate Party: Solentian Centrist Initiative Four- Legitimate State Monopoly of Violence Written by: Ryain Jensen, Shadow Secretary of State for Defence Proposed by: Senator Edmund Rossen, Shadow Secretary of State for Justice |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The nation's defence industry.
Old value:: The state owns national defence industries but these exist alongside privately owned defence industries.
Current: The state owns national defence industries but these exist alongside privately owned defence industries.
Proposed: The state owns all defence industries.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 14:07:22, August 15, 2010 CET | From | Sue's Corner | To | Debating the Solentian Centrist Initiative IV: Legitimate State Monopoly of Violence (CMP-SCI-IV) |
Message | More burden to the taxpayer, when efficency savings can easily be made in these areas. Patsy Davidson, Trade and Industry. |
Date | 14:19:46, August 15, 2010 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the Solentian Centrist Initiative IV: Legitimate State Monopoly of Violence (CMP-SCI-IV) |
Message | "I'm sure the taxpayer will thank us when private security forces on the payroll of mega-corporations aren't holding the Government to ransom. The Conservatives seem to struggle with this one, so we'll make it clearer; Solentia is more than tax money. If given the choice between protection, security and defence and lower taxation- we'll pick the former every time. It speaks miles when the Conservatives have their Trade and Industry Secretary speak on matters of Defence and public Security. Where is our beloved Home Secretary's oh-so-imfamous 'tough' approach now?" Asbjørn Holm, CMP Senatorial Lead. |
Date | 14:26:41, August 15, 2010 CET | From | Sue's Corner | To | Debating the Solentian Centrist Initiative IV: Legitimate State Monopoly of Violence (CMP-SCI-IV) |
Message | You mock our 'tough' approach for one very good reason, every idea you have gives power to exactly the wrong people at all the wrong moments. You give power to the criminal and to the prisoner and it lost you over half your support at the last election. Now you want to disarm us nucleur and have the taxpayer have to fund every single defence related measure. Your vision is all over the place and we are proud of our tough stance on many issues, because unlike the CMP we are gaining ground and winning more and more support for our approaches. Patsy Davidson Trade and Industry |
Date | 14:31:32, August 15, 2010 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the Solentian Centrist Initiative IV: Legitimate State Monopoly of Violence (CMP-SCI-IV) |
Message | "They're very defensive and touchy for people who are debating opposition legislation. Are you really that scared of the taxpayer paying for their own defence? Typical though isn't it? That they resort to Trade, Industry and textbook economics when debating Defence and Security. Money. Their answer to everything." Asbjørn Holm, CMP Senatorial Lead. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||
yes |
Total Seats: 43 | ||||
no | Total Seats: 47 | ||||
abstain | Total Seats: 10 |
Random fact: In order for a Cabinet bill to pass, more than half of the legislature must vote for it and all of the parties included in the proposed Cabinet must support it. If your nation has a Head of State who is also the Head of Government, then the party controlling this character must also vote for the bill, since the Head of Government is also a member of the Cabinet. If any of these requirements are not met, the bill will not pass. |
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