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Bill: Restoring Heritage in the Health Service
Details
Submitted by[?]: Sue's Corner
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2998
Description[?]:
| Returning the health service to the way it was, for the last few hundred years. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Health care policy.
Old value:: There is a public health care system, but private clinics are allowed.
Current: There is a public health care system, but private clinics are allowed.
Proposed: Health care is private, but is paid for by the state for people with low incomes.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:27:55, September 09, 2010 CET | From |  Sue's Corner | To | Debating the Restoring Heritage in the Health Service |
| Message | This is the way our health service was for hundreds of years and was changed recently. Private sector allows for competion between hospitals and for hospitals to compete for the best services, treatments and patient care possible, whilst insurance funds allow for people to recieve care at a cheaper rate. The vulnerable will get free or partially free health care pending on income, and their will be taxcuts for all as the health budget can be slashed meaning more money in the pockets of normal ordinary people. This system worked for hundreds of years and since it was brought back into the national state control, the quality has suffered in many hospitals and we are hearing very frequently from people they would support privatization or at least part privatization of the health service if it meant quality improvements. Patricia Slattery Shadow Health Secretary |
| Date | 19:35:00, September 09, 2010 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the Restoring Heritage in the Health Service |
| Message | "The Health Service was not like this for "hundreds of years", more like 30. If you want to blame history for your textbook economics, at least learn it accurately." Leon Van den Bos, CMP Health Spokesman. |
| Date | 19:36:56, September 09, 2010 CET | From | Sue's Corner | To | Debating the Restoring Heritage in the Health Service |
| Message | The health service was privatized many years ago and has been for a long period of time. Speaking of history it was one of your many parties which proposed and pushed for these proposals over the last few hundreds of years. Pat Slattery Shadow Health |
| Date | 19:40:55, September 09, 2010 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the Restoring Heritage in the Health Service |
| Message | "It is rather pathetic that you claim Heritage as a rationale for this. A betrayal, some would say. Are you certain your party take Heritage seriously? Perhaps it's just a new buzzword for you to throw-about?" Leon Van den Bos, CMP Health Spokesman. |
| Date | 19:44:48, September 09, 2010 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the Restoring Heritage in the Health Service |
| Message | While we are uncomfortable with the name of the bill, we do support it's effects. |
| Date | 19:45:14, September 09, 2010 CET | From | Sue's Corner | To | Debating the Restoring Heritage in the Health Service |
| Message | Given that Private health has been a part of the nation for hundreds of years on and off, and you yourself voted in favour of it, yet surprisngly changed your mind on it (Members gasp sarcastically), we would say that private health is indeed not just a Conservativist Ideology, but a Solentian one. Pat Slattery Shadow Health |
| Date | 19:56:30, September 09, 2010 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the Restoring Heritage in the Health Service |
| Message | "The CMP have always backed a mixed Health System to ensure a Health nation. We take the nation's medical wellbeing very seriously. Unsurprisingly, you do not and you continue to insult the Heritage coalition by throwing about our own history as a buzzword and political ploy. Shameful." Leon Van den Bos, CMP Health Spokesman. |
| Date | 22:42:02, September 09, 2010 CET | From | Sue's Corner | To | Debating the Restoring Heritage in the Health Service |
| Message | By supporting this, we are taking the health of the nation very seriously. Just because you do not agree with us, don't you dare say we don't take seriously the health of this nation. That is a complete insult and we ask you withdraw that remark. We use the word heritage, because for over 100 years the health service was private and produced better results for patients and medical care, than the public system is at current. It is part of our heritage we have a fine health system, and that is why the word is used. Pat Slattery Health |
| Date | 01:27:32, September 10, 2010 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the Restoring Heritage in the Health Service |
| Message | "It is part of our heritage that the state supports and pays doctors and nurses to save lives, we don't bandy about such important terms in debate. If the Conservatives want to be seen as a party of tradition and heritage, it should learn the importance those words have in this chamber." Leon Van den Bos, CMP Health Spokesman. |
| Date | 04:47:57, September 10, 2010 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the Restoring Heritage in the Health Service |
| Message | Honestly, if the Conservatives consider private private/public healthcare to be "Heritage" than the SHC might not be the organization for them. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 138 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 248 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 39 |
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