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Bill: Anonymity Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Leviathan Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2047
Description[?]:
| Government issued ID cards are an unnecessary intrusion into the private lives of our citizens; even when voluntary, they effectively allow citizens to surrender basic rights we should consider inalienable. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government-issued identity card policy.
Old value:: Citizens are issued with identity cards on a voluntary basis.
Current: All citizens are issued with identity cards but are not required to carry them.
Proposed: Citizens are not issued with identity cards.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 12:54:32, May 03, 2005 CET | From | Radical Centrists | To | Debating the Anonymity Act |
| Message | ooc: I think the intention of the earlier bill was that the govt recognises rather than issues ID cards that are optional, much like a proof of age card. |
| Date | 13:41:48, May 03, 2005 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Anonymity Act |
| Message | OOC: The FRP did indicate in the vote that the cards woyuld be privately issued and recognised by the government. However the final bill that everyone voted on was worded: "Government Identification Cards should be available on a voluntary basis as a legitimate source of proof of identification." I take that to mean that the cards are issued by the government. |
| Date | 13:42:07, May 03, 2005 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Anonymity Act |
| Message | The LP supports this bill. |
| Date | 19:40:41, May 03, 2005 CET | From | Leviathan Party | To | Debating the Anonymity Act |
| Message | Are we honestly to accept privately created ID cards? Does no one see the folly inherent in such an approach? Who other than the government issues ID cards? Businesses? Parents? And what happens when a criminal individual, free from having to go through the annoying process of applying for a government issued form of ID, such as a drivers license of passport, uses a privately issued ID card for some nefarious purpose? So now we have an intrusion into the privacy of our citizens that will, if anything, make us less secure by providing the veneer legitimate identificaiton where none exists. Private issued ID cards? It's such an absurd proposal I'm surprised it was this bizarre and misconceived compromise that won the Efficiency Act support. |
| Date | 10:42:06, May 04, 2005 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Anonymity Act |
| Message | The LP see does indeed see the folly of privately issued ID cards, but we also believe the original bill was poor legislation that actually provided no mandate to the private sector to produce the cards. In either case we remain opposed to ID cards wether privately or publicly provided. |
| Date | 11:19:51, May 04, 2005 CET | From | LibCom Party | To | Debating the Anonymity Act |
| Message | As do we. |
| Date | 23:35:56, May 04, 2005 CET | From | United Socialist Party | To | Debating the Anonymity Act |
| Message | "Are we honestly to accept privately created ID cards" Of course we are not going to accept something as preposterous as that. The ID cards are given out by the government, even though it isn’t mentioned in the bill itself the idea of a privately made ID card is nothing but an absurd idea and therefore we thought it was common sense that the cards were distributed by the government. |
| Date | 01:16:17, May 05, 2005 CET | From | Leviathan Party | To | Debating the Anonymity Act |
| Message | Well then perhaps someone can clarify which it is: privately created ID cards, or government created ID cards? Or is the FRP intentionally playing coy to win votes for their misguided legislation? |
| Date | 05:27:55, May 05, 2005 CET | From |  Free Reform Coalition (FRP) | To | Debating the Anonymity Act |
| Message | Apologies for recent absences: The idea in creating voluntary ID cards was a compromise. In our discussion we argued that this did not have to be something that our government needed to pay for, so we should leave it to a private corporation to create. Nevertheless, that does not mean there are any restrictions or regulations. The government has oversight and determines how the ID can and should be verified for example the magnetic swipe on the back of most cards. The idea is simple: the government regulates and oversees proper production of ID cards, while private industry and citizens foot the bill if they want the card. This way the government does not have to spend extra money on this while still maintaining the security of the ID card. |
| Date | 05:31:29, May 05, 2005 CET | From | Free Reform Coalition (FRP) | To | Debating the Anonymity Act |
| Message | The problems of privately created ID cards only exists if there is no oversight by the government. And this creates an incentive for the private companies to create safer ID cards and be able to tailer them to the needs of the individual. For example, many ID cards have basic information and a picture on them. This would be the minimum requirement on the card. But it is possible to add a lot more information as the individual sees fit, his or her address, it could double as a credit card. These "extras" might be helpful and ultimately cheaper for the citizen, who would have to pay to get an ID card even if it was government created. |
| Date | 07:12:07, May 05, 2005 CET | From | Leviathan Party | To | Debating the Anonymity Act |
| Message | So now we're increasing government bureaucracy by requiring we certiff businesses to create private ID's? Are you mad? Who exactly is the party of small government again? You can't call it 'small' if all you do is contract out, have to create programs to check up on those business you contracted it out to, and still end up with intrusion. We hope that, this insanity will sway some parties to reconsider their vote and eliminate this ill conceived program from our nation. |
| Date | 13:06:40, May 05, 2005 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Anonymity Act |
| Message | I like the flippant way that it's suggested that the card could carry whatever information you wanted or even be used as a credit card. anyone here actualyl got any experience of large scale technology projects? No, didn't think so. This would cost a fortune and be a nightmare to implement. If the credit card idea isn;t thrown out, are the banks to be consulted? This is pie in the sky ill-thought out legislation. |
| Date | 13:07:46, May 05, 2005 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Anonymity Act |
| Message | The neagtive comments of course refer to the legislation that introduced ID cards. The LP supports the repeal. |
| Date | 13:19:25, May 05, 2005 CET | From | LibCom Party | To | Debating the Anonymity Act |
| Message | And I don't think anyone's even mentioned the data protection issues yet... |
| Date | 20:34:55, May 05, 2005 CET | From | Leviathan Party | To | Debating the Anonymity Act |
| Message | The LCP brings up an excellent point; all that data, if farmed out to the private sector, is only as safe as those businesses are willing to spend on it. I frankly do not feel secure trusting security to a bottom line. |
| Date | 09:16:51, May 06, 2005 CET | From | Free Reform Coalition (FRP) | To | Debating the Anonymity Act |
| Message | Well, perhaps you are unaware, but credit cards already come with photo ID attached to them to verify the person spending the money is the owner of the card. The extension is not that card, especially considering that magnetic strips on cards have been around for a long time. And like I said, there would be regulation on it and it would be voluntary. Tied to the fact that almost everyone owns a credit card and poor people own the most, this would not be an uneconomical option, |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 59 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 41 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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