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Bill: Military Strategy Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Meritocratic Alliance
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 3004
Description[?]:
| Unfettering our nation's defenders. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning biological and chemical weaponry.
Old value:: The nation shall never purchase, produce, or store biological or chemical weaponry, for military purposes. Research and development of the technology is permitted.
Current: The nation reserves the right to develop, construct and store biological and chemical weapons.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to develop, construct and store biological and chemical weapons.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of chemical and biological weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weaponry in warfare.
Current: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weapons in warfare unless another nation uses them first.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to use chemical or biological weapons in warfare for any reason.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards the use of land mines by the army.
Old value:: The use of land mines is prohibited.
Current: The use of land mines is allowed.
Proposed: The use of land mines is allowed.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve a term of civilian national service.
Current: There shall be no mandatory military or civilian national service.
Proposed: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve a term in the military, but can shorten their term/forego it completely by paying a certain amount of money.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of nuclear weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation shall never use nuclear weapons in warfare unless another nation uses them first.
Current: The nation shall never use nuclear weapons in warfare.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in warfare for any reason.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The policy with respect to nuclear weaponry.
Old value:: The nation shall never produce or store nuclear weaponry for military purposes. Research and development of the technology is permitted.
Current: The nation shall never produce or store nuclear weaponry for military purposes. Research and development of the technology is permitted.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to develop, produce and store nuclear arms.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:46:42, September 22, 2010 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the Military Strategy Bill |
| Message | "The CMP cannot loan our support to this Bill. We strongly feel that it would undermine National Security Efforts." Andrew Took, CMP Security and Intelligence Spokesman. |
| Date | 22:12:48, September 22, 2010 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the Military Strategy Bill |
| Message | The CMP would have our infrantry's rifles loaded with rose petals. |
| Date | 11:25:52, September 23, 2010 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the Military Strategy Bill |
| Message | "The CMP would have the Foreign Office do it's job without undermining efforts from an overpowerful and aggressive MoD." Andrew Took, CMP Security and Intelligence Spokesman. |
| Date | 13:56:05, September 23, 2010 CET | From | Sue's Corner | To | Debating the Military Strategy Bill |
| Message | Quite agree with the Crown Party, the CMP has long advocated our current position, yet never had any reason tos upport their argument. With the current proposals our armed forces have nothing to support themselves, unarmed soldiers in warfare, no nucelur weaponary when other countries have them, how will this assist our nation in the event something should happen? And please dont use the old argument 'well we havent gone to war in ages, so it wont ever happen' because all it takes is one nation to use their nucleur weaponary. Jim Fletcher Shadow Foreign |
| Date | 14:33:09, September 23, 2010 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the Military Strategy Bill |
| Message | "The CMP has always advocated, and the system presently allows for, a fully armed Military. These "unarmed soldiers" the Conservatives are talking about, simply do not exist. They are complete inventions and lies designed to scaremonger the Solentian public, something we see as grossly unfair and unjust. The Armed Forces of Solentia are a highly advanced and supported force, who would have much higher levels of funding had parties brought it upon themselves to vote in favour of rational taxation and spending to give to the MoD. Nuclear Weapons and Bio-Chemical Warheads are only a fraction of the Solentian Armed Forces and our inability to use them does not harm our overall defence, only our deterrent." Andrew Took, CMP Security and Intelligence Spokesman. |
| Date | 19:23:20, September 23, 2010 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the Military Strategy Bill |
| Message | I remind Mr took that during the Supreme Presidency of Max Bowman, our nation was threatened with invasion and warfare from Wantuni at a time they were particularly violent and expansionistic. Diplomatic overtures were rebuffed. It took one threat of nuclear annihilation to stop the Wantinis dead in their tracks, and saved us from what very well may have been a devastating war. We cannot have effective diplimacy, without the means to back it up. In a world of nuclear armed nations, Solentia cannot hold her own, as unallied as she is, in a continuously weakened state. I challenge you to respond. Defence Minister Bernard Harrison |
| Date | 19:27:16, September 23, 2010 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the Military Strategy Bill |
| Message | I would chime in to say that the Tories have not in recent memory proposed or supported increased military spending. To blame the current woefully level of funding on this when in fact they have only proposed increases to other departments is ingenious at best, and an outright lie at worst. Lord Belisarius |
| Date | 19:28:55, September 23, 2010 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the Military Strategy Bill |
| Message | "Solentia has the continued backing of the Majatran Union. Our Armed Services remain on top-form, what the Crown Party would have us impliment is not defence, it is threat, instability, provokation and potential devestation." Andrew Took, CMP Security and Intelligence Spokesman. |
| Date | 19:32:10, September 23, 2010 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the Military Strategy Bill |
| Message | "The Tories have always backed spending and taxation increases during times of underfunding. I believe we supported the Harrison Budget in 3000 for instance." Andrew Took, CMP Security and Intelligence Spokesman. |
| Date | 19:32:31, September 23, 2010 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the Military Strategy Bill |
| Message | We provoke no one and wish good will and Christian charity to all. But we do not believe in backing up our words with more words. We have the lessons history has provided, and we suggest using them as a basis for common sense. Senator Michael Lister |
| Date | 19:37:18, September 23, 2010 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the Military Strategy Bill |
| Message | "Only as a compromise, Mr Took, as you know well." Lord Belisarius |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 165 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 162 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 98 |
| Random fact: Terra, the fictional world in which Particracy is set, consists of 8 continents: Artania, Dovani, Keris, Makon, Majatra, Seleya, Temania and Vascania. |
| Random quote: "Civil disobedience. . . is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience. Our problem is that numbers of people all over the world have obeyed the dictates of the leaders of their government and have gone to war, and millions have been killed because of this obedience. . Our problem is that people are obedient all over the world in the face of poverty and starvation and stupidity, and war, and cruelty. Our problem is that people are obedient while the jails are full of petty thieves, and all the while the grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem." - Howard Zinn |