We are working on a brand new version of the game! If you want to stay informed, read our blog and register for our mailing list.
Bill: Return to Traditional Definitions
Details
Submitted by[?]: Herut Orthodoxy
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2140
Description[?]:
| Marriage is the basis of the family. The family is the basis for the next generation. The next generation is the basis upon which we build a society. A return to the traditional definition of marriage is a return to caring about the future - not some special interest group's selfish desires. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy toward marriage.
Old value:: The government allows all consenting adults to obtain civil marriage contracts.
Current: The government allows all consenting adults to obtain civil marriage contracts.
Proposed: The government only recognises civil marriages between a man and a woman.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:29:57, November 12, 2005 CET | From |  Liberty Party | To | Debating the Return to Traditional Definitions |
| Message | How is allowing the marriage of two people who love eachother 'selfish'. Surely you are the selfish one by denying people the right to marry even though it has no effect on you at all? We will be voting no. |
| Date | 19:02:54, November 12, 2005 CET | From | Partiya Natsional'noy Gordyy | To | Debating the Return to Traditional Definitions |
| Message | We oppose. |
| Date | 21:24:19, November 12, 2005 CET | From | Herut Orthodoxy | To | Debating the Return to Traditional Definitions |
| Message | Surely you are... Very persuasive. Here is how it is selfish: There is a traditional definition of marriage which has been in place for a very long time. Everyone has the same right to marry within the status quo. Those who wish to change this are not interested in 'love' since love is independent of marriage. They wish to force their views and definitionsupon the whole of society, and the majority are morally conservative, and this is not a morally conservative agenda. Instead of turning public opinion, it is easier to convince others that laws are the way to go, and that it is oppressive to not do so. Some people eat this up, others can see though this. Selfish by definiton is something on the order of taking your own desires as being higher than those that may be reflected for the nation as a whole. This does not ban people from loving each other, it preserves the actual idea of marriage and what is has been for a very long time. |
| Date | 03:00:08, November 13, 2005 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Return to Traditional Definitions |
| Message | How can you suggest that permitting same sex couples to marry is 'forcing their views' on others? Do you think we are forcing you to have a gay marriage? In contrast, it is quite clear that when you prohibit others doing something that causes you no harm at all, you are very much forcing your views on others. |
subscribe to this discussion - unsubscribe
Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 253 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 272 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 30 |
| Random fact: Players must never be asked for their Particracy password. This includes Moderation; a genuine Moderator will never ask for your password. |
| Random quote: "The European Union and environmental advocacy groups use global warming hysteria to advance their own special agendas. The European Union recognizes any significant reduction in CO2 emissions by the United States will significantly reduce its economic output, thereby bringing it closer to the inferior output of European nations. Environmental advocacy groups work to stifle economic and industrial progress wherever they find it to inhibit the successful advancement of peoples in developing nations, inevitably making mankind a second class citizen of planet Earth." - Dr. Jay Lehr |