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Bill: Police and Justice Reform Bill of 3028
Details
Submitted by[?]: People's Party - Republican Democrats
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 3028
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The terms of extradition.
Old value:: The law bars the government from extraditing anyone who is a citizen of the state.
Current: Extradition to nations that practice cruel or inhumane treatment of suspects or in punishment is not allowed.
Proposed: Extradition to nations with capital punishment or with cruel or inhumane treatment of suspects and convicts is not allowed.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on the separation of the police and the military.
Old value:: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Current: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Proposed: A civilian police force is in place and the military is not allowed to play any part in it.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the organization of police/law enforcement
Old value:: There is a national police department, funded by the government.
Current: There is a national police department funded by the national government and there are local police departments, funded by local governments.
Proposed: There is a national police department funded by the national government and there are local police departments, funded by local governments.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The use of torture for obtaining information.
Old value:: Suspects can only be tortured under grave emergencies where the information is vital.
Current: Torture is never allowed.
Proposed: Torture is never allowed.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:34:54, November 10, 2010 CET | From | Nemangha Humananghô | To | Debating the Police and Justice Reform Bill of 3028 |
| Message | Our position on this bill can be summed up as follows: Agree with Article 1 Disagree with Article 2 on the ground that it is impossible to determine what situations may arise that are beyond the capabilities of basic law enforcement responce. Agree with Article 3. Disagree with Article 4 based on the "harm one, save many" principle. We understand that this may not happen often, but it is unwise to prevent the government from acting on it if it ever does. |
| Date | 21:33:30, November 10, 2010 CET | From | People's Party - Republican Democrats | To | Debating the Police and Justice Reform Bill of 3028 |
| Message | OOC: It might be helpful to to refer to the proposals by their numbers, as their order isn't always the same every time each one of us looks. As it looks to me now, the FRFSP agrees with the separation of police and military, - disagrees with probiting torture on the ground "that it is impossible to determine what situations may arise that are beyond the capabilities of basic law enforcement responce" - agrees with having national and local police departments - disagrees with the change in extradition laws "based on the "harm one, save many" principle" It doesn't make sense somehow, does it? I can imagine which articles are meant, though. |
| Date | 21:34:25, November 10, 2010 CET | From | People's Party - Republican Democrats | To | Debating the Police and Justice Reform Bill of 3028 |
| Message | OOC: I ceratinly meant NOT to refer to the proposals by their numbers |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 108 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 91 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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