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Bill: Human Rights Protection Bill

Details

Submitted by[?]: People's Party - Republican Democrats

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: April 3046

Description[?]:

.This bill is designed to overturn some of the more blatantly authoritorian policies of the right-wing government. It may probably not go far enough for some on some points, and it will go too far on many points for the parties which proposed those authoritarian laws and brought them into effect, but it is only meant to be a step towards recreating and free and democratic Aldegar.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date11:41:11, December 12, 2010 CET
FromAldegar National Monarchic Front
ToDebating the Human Rights Protection Bill
MessageThis bill, as formuled, contains too many and too different matters to be seriously discussed and voted.
We could discuss Articles 9, 14 and 15. Otherways we will not support this bill.

Date15:01:12, December 12, 2010 CET
FromPeople's Party - Republican Democrats
ToDebating the Human Rights Protection Bill
MessageAs this bill is designed to overturn a range of the authoritarian policies that have been enacted by the parties in the current coalition government, we suppose there isn't really much to discuss with the BBNA, the NH, or that other party.

Date15:18:33, December 12, 2010 CET
FromrEvolution
ToDebating the Human Rights Protection Bill
MessageThe PP does not even dare to utter our name. Good. Gooood. *evil laughter*

Date16:18:42, December 12, 2010 CET
FromPeople's Party - Republican Democrats
ToDebating the Human Rights Protection Bill
MessageOOC: It's bad enough I have to swallow my disgust every time I have to look at your name, why should I give it further recognition by using it (even without the additional characters)?

Date00:41:25, December 13, 2010 CET
FromNemangha Humananghô
ToDebating the Human Rights Protection Bill
MessageHuman rights? Preposterous!

Date09:59:04, December 13, 2010 CET
FromAldegar National Monarchic Front
ToDebating the Human Rights Protection Bill
MessagePP is right: this authoritarian and extremistic drift is going too far.

Date15:59:47, December 13, 2010 CET
FromAldegar Post-Left
ToDebating the Human Rights Protection Bill
Message"this authoritarian and extremistic drift is going too far."

That seems a bit odd coming from "Big Brother's National Alliance." Perhaps the name is a bit misleading?

Date08:50:30, December 14, 2010 CET
FromPeople's Party - Republican Democrats
ToDebating the Human Rights Protection Bill
MessageThe BBNA's name and their self-discription are indeed somewhat at odds.

Date09:28:33, December 14, 2010 CET
FromAldegar National Monarchic Front
ToDebating the Human Rights Protection Bill
MessageWe do not accept any lesson coming from PP and APL!

We are not extremistic or authoritarian but - yes - we are a conservative and democratic force. And we're proud of it. Even the parties of the coalition where we are accuse us to be too "moderate".
We suggest you both to look beyond the party's name: which really count are ideas and actions taken, not names.

Date11:09:37, December 14, 2010 CET
FromPeople's Party - Republican Democrats
ToDebating the Human Rights Protection Bill
MessageWe were not trying to give any lessons to the BBNA. It is simply a plain fact that their name, the Big Brother's National Alliance does conjure up a certain authoritarian image which IS at odds with their self-description as a democratic and moderate party. However, we agree that what really counts are a party's actual policies, not their name or their self-description.

Date12:48:04, December 14, 2010 CET
FromAldegar National Monarchic Front
ToDebating the Human Rights Protection Bill
Messageooc: ok...you are right and I've to admit the name I choose is not totally representative of the political platform of my party. :D

Date23:11:53, December 14, 2010 CET
FromNemangha Humananghô
ToDebating the Human Rights Protection Bill
MessageIf anything, the government should have no formal policy on adultery. "Legalizing" it simply encourages it, and having no formal policy entails the same de facto freedom the PP desires.

Date14:52:24, December 15, 2010 CET
FromPeople's Party - Republican Democrats
ToDebating the Human Rights Protection Bill
MessageIn theory, we agree with the NH that the absence of a law prohibting adultery would make it perfectly legal. However, given that the right-wing coalition made it a capital offence, we felt that further clarification was needed to assure the people that they would not be prosecuted for something that is essentially a private matter.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 104

no
   

Total Seats: 95

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


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