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Bill: Restoring Sanity on Issues of Faith
Details
Submitted by[?]: Alianse Progresivitāte
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2141
Description[?]:
| In other words, I expect DUP to vote no ;-) |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.
Old value:: Foreign missionaries are not permitted to enter the nation.
Current: The government has no policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.
Proposed: The government requires foreign missionaries to register with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards evangelism and religious advertising.
Old value:: Religions are not permitted to promote themselves or advertise in any manner whatsoever.
Current: Religious organizations are not permitted to actively promote themselves or advertise, however evangelism is permitted by individuals.
Proposed: Religions are permitted to freely promote and advertise themselves.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change
Taxation of religious institutions.
Old value:: All religious income, despite the use, is taxed.
Current: Religions are treated as companies, and all profit is taxed, however, charitable donations are not taxed.
Proposed: No religions are taxed.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Remuneration of ministers of religion.
Old value:: Ministers of religion shall receive no remuneration whatsoever.
Current: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Proposed: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Current: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Proposed: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 03:15:10, November 15, 2005 CET | From | Alianse Progresivitāte | To | Debating the Restoring Sanity on Issues of Faith |
| Message | Related to this, I want to open a dialogue with Civil Union on what an acceptable treaty compact would be, to prohibit introduction of bills to restore government-enforced athiesm. As I see it, an agreement must be reached by all parties except DUP in order to successfully get 2/3 in favor. |
| Date | 06:30:35, November 15, 2005 CET | From | Movement for White Supremacy | To | Debating the Restoring Sanity on Issues of Faith |
| Message | This bill is acceptable. I am also in favor of your proposal to amend our constitution to prevent a "reign of athiest terror" such as the DUP style. CU will most likely accept this bill (he is a likeminded party in this sense to I and CPD) and this should pass easily. |
| Date | 07:27:31, November 15, 2005 CET | From | Dolgarian Imperial Revivalists | To | Debating the Restoring Sanity on Issues of Faith |
| Message | I doubt that he would accept cementing such a thing in the form of a treaty though, as his occasional 'get to church' outbursts would be denied. Either way, I do of course oppose this until such time as a cabinet including the DUP is selected. We oppose article 3 anyway, and article 4 for that matter. There should be regulation so as to prevent evangelical ministers from pocketing all the donations that they might recieve. |
| Date | 13:14:44, November 15, 2005 CET | From | United Dolgaria Party | To | Debating the Restoring Sanity on Issues of Faith |
| Message | Why not just ditch DUP from the cabinets and pass this and other religious stuff without him. |
| Date | 15:27:23, November 15, 2005 CET | From | Alianse Progresivitāte | To | Debating the Restoring Sanity on Issues of Faith |
| Message | To get CU on board for a treaty would probably require us to put the theocracy options on the table. It'd solve half the evil, but not the whole thing. |
| Date | 16:33:44, November 15, 2005 CET | From | Movement for White Supremacy | To | Debating the Restoring Sanity on Issues of Faith |
| Message | CU is inactive. He will probably drop within the next few days, meaning we need a new election. ( he has most of CPD and CC's seats of power) |
| Date | 16:36:07, November 15, 2005 CET | From | Movement for White Supremacy | To | Debating the Restoring Sanity on Issues of Faith |
| Message | DUP did you read what you just said!!! "There should be regulation so as to prevent evangelical ministers from pocketing all the donations that they might recieve." Ministers don't get paid... Donations go to the church usually, (and if not, they go to a charity) and the church usually provides either a small living salary for the minister, or just a home to stay at... |
| Date | 18:31:47, November 15, 2005 CET | From | Dolgarian Imperial Revivalists | To | Debating the Restoring Sanity on Issues of Faith |
| Message | I guess that you didn't bother to read article 4 then? |
| Date | 21:53:45, November 15, 2005 CET | From | Alianse Progresivitāte | To | Debating the Restoring Sanity on Issues of Faith |
| Message | My lord... DUP, look, I understand that you hate and fear all people who have religious beliefs, but do you serious expect people to starve? Why is it you believe in human rights... until those humans dare to read from a Book? I'm also very disappointed that SDU voted no, although I can understand their vote if they're doing so only for tactical reasons. I hope that SDU will be reasonable on religion issues once it has seats in the Senate, and will agree not to bully people away from religious liberties. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 427 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 154 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 169 |
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