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Bill: Call for early elections, March 2141

Details

Submitted by[?]: RSDP - Democratic Front

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill requests an early election. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline. Elections will be held immediately if the bill passes.

Voting deadline: November 2141

Description[?]:

We, the Rutania Social Democrat Party, taking note of the fact that the Federal Government is not fit to govern and that the Federal Government has destroyed our reputation abroad with a pathetic conference aimed at the destruction of human rights, call for early elections as soon as we can reach a consensus.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date17:34:33, November 15, 2005 CET
FromLibertarian Alcoholic Party II
ToDebating the Call for early elections, March 2141
MessageBah. Don't support this. It's just a political jab at us capitalists, drunks and libertarians. What the RSDP is saying is "I don't like the government because I don't have enough power - let's keep voting until I do."

Date17:48:43, November 15, 2005 CET
FromRadical Freedom Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, March 2141
MessageThe RFP will not vote against a motion of distrust against a government that it is not part of.

Date17:59:27, November 15, 2005 CET
From RSDP - Democratic Front
ToDebating the Call for early elections, March 2141
MessageWhat I am saying is "I don't like the Government because it is doing a terrible job, has destroyed our international reputation, and has declared its commitment to destroying human rights". ;-)

Date18:44:33, November 15, 2005 CET
FromLiberal Imperialist Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, March 2141
MessageWhat you're saying is "Im leaving soon so Im going to be a vindictive moron in the meantime".

Date20:57:10, November 15, 2005 CET
FromLibertarian Alcoholic Party II
ToDebating the Call for early elections, March 2141
Message"I don't like the Government because it is doing a terrible job, has destroyed our international reputation, and has declared its commitment to destroying human rights"

A terrible job? So far this capitalist majority has cured the budget deficit and almost halved taxation. I haven't noticed our international reputation being particularly bad -

and as the most regulative, restrictive leaning party in the nation I'm not prepared to take a human rights lecture from you.

Date21:07:49, November 15, 2005 CET
FromLibertarian Alcoholic Party II
ToDebating the Call for early elections, March 2141
MessageMr. Human Rights - your ideological breakdown has a lot to say.

On civil rights, you're rated moderate restrictive. On the market, you're a convinced regulator, and on morality you're conservative-leaning.

In terms of both civil rights and market freedom you are without exception the least permissive party, and on morality you are the second most regressive party in this nation! Do not tell us off for our "commitment to destroying human rights"!

Date22:00:46, November 15, 2005 CET
From RSDP - Democratic Front
ToDebating the Call for early elections, March 2141
Message"A terrible job? So far this capitalist majority has cured the budget deficit and almost halved taxation. I haven't noticed our international reputation being particularly bad -"

The first was achieved under the progressive coalition, was it not? The second I have noticed nothing about, the greatest decrease in taxation I have seen was about 2%. And the third means you must be blind.

Date22:02:13, November 15, 2005 CET
From RSDP - Democratic Front
ToDebating the Call for early elections, March 2141
MessageBut in terms of human rights, my party and the Radical Freedom Party are the strongest supporters thereof (the latter maybe even more so).

Date22:02:59, November 15, 2005 CET
From RSDP - Democratic Front
ToDebating the Call for early elections, March 2141
MessageJust because we don't believe in a "right to infringe upon others' rights", doesn't mean we are not very strong supporters of human rights. You apparantly do believe in that right, or at least when corporations are concerned you do.

Date22:58:47, November 15, 2005 CET
From Freedom Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, March 2141
Message"Go fuck off" Say members of the Freedom Party. You have a moderate restrictive civil rights rating, you cannot preach about human rights you do not care about.

Your party supports and violates many of the conditions of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights

Date18:23:13, November 16, 2005 CET
From RSDP - Democratic Front
ToDebating the Call for early elections, March 2141
MessageWe care more about human rights than ANY capitalist!

Date18:28:55, November 16, 2005 CET
FromLibertarian Alcoholic Party II
ToDebating the Call for early elections, March 2141
Message"We care more about human rights than ANY capitalist!"

Ideologies page says no.

"Civil Rights: Moderate Restrictive" cannot be rationally construed as proof that your party are "the strongest supporters thereof" when us capitalists all have moderate and convinced permissive tags.

It's not just a game quirk either. You have voted to violate the right to bear arms, the right to sell food, the right to smoke, the right to keep exotic pets - the list goes on.

You are the most authoritarian party in this nation. I'll concede that you uphold the ideals of equality and sharing - but a human rights supporter you are most definitely not.

Date18:38:29, November 16, 2005 CET
FromLibertarian Alcoholic Party II
ToDebating the Call for early elections, March 2141
Message"Just because we don't believe in a "right to infringe upon others' rights", doesn't mean we are not very strong supporters of human rights."


The following rights do not infringe on the rights of others.

The right to bear arms.
The right to sell food, alcohol and tobacco without a license.
The right to keep exotic animals.
The right to grow GM crops.
The right NOT to be educated.
The right to freely travel in space without government supervision.
The right to speak freely.
The right to gamble anywhere.
The right to travel freely without carrying an ID card.

Do these rights "infringe on the rights of others"? NO. They are all PERSONAL rights whose enforcement will not adversely affect anyone other than the persons in question.

These are all rights which, at some time in its history, the RSDP has actively sought, through voting and political manipulation, to restrict or destroy.

The question here is not whether the RSDP's philosophy is a noble or just one - that is not the point of my diatribe. My point is that the RSDP's claim to being MORE pro-civil rights than, say, the LAP or the FP is egregiously absurd!

Date20:53:24, November 17, 2005 CET
From RSDP - Democratic Front
ToDebating the Call for early elections, March 2141
MessageOh please, you are really talking bullshit this time. :rolleye: I won't even bother responding to that kind of ignorant crap. Most of them aren't even rights! And those that are are strongly supported by the RSDP with only restrictions where the free exercise of them can infringe upon the rights of others (as is the case with hate speech).

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Voting

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Total Seats: 369

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